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Dave in Tenn:
Whatever the 'answers' to these, I'm going to assume that God brought these possible situations about.

Has anybody ever wanted to sin, but could not?

Has anybody ever wanted to not sin, but could not not?

cheekie3:
Dave -

I believe both Questions can be answered both yes and no; and it is all of God as our actions, words and heart's intentions are worked by Him.

Even in the Old Testament, some did Good Works and were counted as Righteous by the Lord God; as The Spirit if The Lord was upon them.

Is is not the same as some of us now; who pray to our Heavenly Father to stop us sinning and burn out of us all evil lustful selfish desires.

Or you could simply state that all of us are sinners doing evil for selfish reasons framed and limited by God until He Heals us of each particular sin.

I hope I undertstood what you are asking.

Regards, George.

Dave in Tenn:
yes, George.  I think you understand what I'm asking.  I just wanted to get away from thinking about hypothetical people and situations, and hear some 'real-life' examples.

cjwood:
ok dave, i will jump in the conversation.

to your two questions, i would answer honestly that:
#1.  i have never wanted to sin, but could not.  anytime i wanted to sin, i could; and oft would.    :-\  :(

#2.  yes, in so many different times of temptation i have wanted to not sin, but found i could not, of my own self, not want to sin. the carnal flesh of the beast we are, is always roaring about like a lion, looking to feed its' hunger. i cannot count the number of times i have called out to my Father to quiet the pangs of hunger from my flesh.  

whoop, there it is...

claudia

Dave in Tenn:
Thanks, Claudia.  I truly believe what the Lord requires of us is clear-eyed, unmitigated honesty based on Truth.  My religious past sometimes 'asked' this of people, but never to my memory 'recieved it' well.  I caught a lot of this disease and am hoping to recover. 

Sometimes I just get a little weary of talking about imaginary people and philosophical straw-men, and ache to get down to where real people can identify.  Maybe some more will want to chime in.

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