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Craig:
Denise I don't have the link but I'm sure somebody here does.  There is a facebook page Fans of Ray and you might discuss other topics there.  And still be with those of like mind.

Craig

ez2u:
Tish  Tish

River:
4. Don't 'ask & preach'. If you have a question, state your question. But it's not really a question if you're telling us why it's true. If you have the answers, why ask? If you are sincerely asking, why act like you already know? A question can have background information, but that's all it needs to be, background info.

Just maybe someone is saying this is why I think this is true and has a sincere question. It's natural to speak like that isn't it? The assumption that the persons has the "answer" just because they say this is why they see it a certain way at the time does not mean they have the truth. I think it is easy to understand why someone would act like they know and yet ask a sincere question. I find it almost impossible to think everyone on the forum has retreated here only when they have fully agreed with everything Ray teaches. This is evident by Craig's post. I can understand Denise's feelings on this. The net set out to catch only certain type of fish are sadly catching other fish. But yes I too can see why this rules in effect, how does one honestly know who is for real and who is trying to debate. Thanks for letting me share my thoughts.

mharrell08:

--- Quote from: River on November 30, 2011, 04:13:41 AM ---4. Don't 'ask & preach'. If you have a question, state your question. But it's not really a question if you're telling us why it's true. If you have the answers, why ask? If you are sincerely asking, why act like you already know? A question can have background information, but that's all it needs to be, background info.

Just maybe someone is saying this is why I think this is true and has a sincere question. It's natural to speak like that isn't it? The assumption that the persons has the "answer" just because they say this is why they see it a certain way at the time does not mean they have the truth. I think it is easy to understand why someone would act like they know and yet ask a sincere question. I find it almost impossible to think everyone on the forum has retreated here only when they have fully agreed with everything Ray teaches. This is evident by Craig's post. I can understand Denise's feelings on this. The net set out to catch only certain type of fish are sadly catching other fish. But yes I too can see why this rules in effect, how does one honestly know who is for real and who is trying to debate. Thanks for letting me share my thoughts.
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Point taken River...but this is just one suggestion among many. If all are taken into consideration, there will likely be less issues. Also notice the phrase 'background information'...that's especially helpful. We actually get less background information on a subject and rather more endless commentary on why some pet belief is true.

What kind of discussion can you have when someone is steadfast in mind? A debate...even if neither side was looking for one. A discussion is give and take, not thumping someone over the head again and again or fishing for someone to agree with some personal doctrine. The give and take should be what the board says it should be: discuss what we learn at BT.

I make these kinds of post from what I see on the board. Not everyone falls into this discussion. It's actually fewer than the members who act within the forum rules. But when it becomes enough, then something needs to be said.


Hope you understand,

Marques

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