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cjwood:
john, i remember reading through ray's material before regarding soul and spirit and i believe he answered your question, with regards to what is the only thing left over from this life. from my understanding, i believe ray was expounding on when we are given a new spiritual body, then our soul, that which made us, us; will be put into our new spiritual bodies. and as we know, one's soul doesn't go to heaven when we die. it sleeps with us. if i am wrong in this, i hope someone will help us understand it better.
claudia
Gina:
Hi, Claudia: When you say soul do you really mean our personality (the thing that makes a person unique and distinguishes us from each other)?
More food for thought: Is a soul truly a soul if it's not a living one? (Paraphrased: And God breathed into his nostrils the breath (spirit) of life and he became a living soul. Gen. 2:7)
Gina:
p.s.
--- Quote ---If they don't understand that "souls" DO NOT SLEEP in death, then they don't understand ANYTHING regarding death being analogous to "sleep.
--- End quote ---
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,1597.msg13419.html#msg13419
And now I've hijacked my own thread with all this food for thought...
JohnMichael:
It very well may be "two" in a technicality. The answer I was pondering is the heart which would encompass everything else - thoughts, feelings, experiences, etc. I'm still curious if the heart and soul are not two words describing the same thing, but that's another discussion.
If the heart is the one thing left over, it would make perfect sense that God would reward the desires of the heart that are pleasing to Him as well because He's the one who put them there in the first place (Paraphrased: God works in us to WILL and to DO of His good pleasure). He punishes/chastises/scourges those desires that are wicked. Wouldn't He also reward those that are good?
Thoughts?
In Him,
John
Dave in Tenn:
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,11605.0.html
God gives Spirit to a body, the result is a living soul. You are a soul. God removes spirit from a body, the living soul ceases. Must have a body for a soul to come about. Must have Spirit "in" that body for a soul to be.
We started with Spirit and "Dust". So what's 'left' when the soul dies? Spirit and dust. Nothing is lost. Isn't "Spirit" the important thing? Spirit is what makes souls in the first place.
Anyways, maybe that will help us stop thinking like christians, worried about all our bits and pieces. :D
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