I AM that I AM H1961 hâyâh A primitive root; to exist, that is, be or become, come to pass
Exo 3:14 Then Elohim spoke to Moses: I shall come to be just as I am coming to be. And He said: Thus shall you say to the sons of Israel, I-Shall-Come-to-Be has sent me to you.
Gen 2:7 So then Yahweh God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed in his nostrils the breath of life—and man became a living soul.
BECAME H1961 hâyâh A primitive root; to exist, that is, be or become, come to pass
My question is, man "became" a living soul and that word "became," is the same as "I-Shall-Come-to-Be," then how can it be incorrect to not understand that man will return to what he was at the first, "spirit." So in 1Cor. 15:44-47 Paul tells us "first" adam was natural and the second adam is spirit. It seems to me that the words " I AM and became" being the same word, were we not spirit first, then dust of the ground and we return to spirit. God is Spirit and we came out of God, were we not spirit first?Would that not be "a law of circularity?"
To tell you the truth I seem to be in a maze on this. Ray writes about 1 Cor.15 and I understood it, but all the while in my reasoning if God is Spirit and we came from or out of Him ..........thus my maze. Help Please.
If I'm understand this correctly, what you are saying is that because all things came out of God the Father and seeing as He is spirit, we must therefor have been also spirit at that time before we came into being as we are now.
If this is correct then I will present you with this;
Just because God gave rise to our existence through Himself, does not mean that we were actually
conscious spiritual beings before we came into existence as we know it. You exist now as you know yourself, that being that you are, with thoughts, feelings, emotions etc...THE SOUL, exists because of the combination of God's spirit and the dust of the earth. To say one was spirit before that, because one came out of a being who is purely spirit, is a moot point, as you were not existent, not conscious, seeing as you did not possess a SOUL (A soul requires a body and God's breath of life, His Spirit.)
It's like saying I came out of my mother, therefor, I must have been my mother at some point! If you want to get nitty gritty, you could argue that I carry some of my mothers genetic information, while this is true, no where at any time before my birth was I conscious, nor was I my mother.
Edit: Just to clarify my point; Simply because something gives rise to something else, does not mean that something else was at any point, the thing which gave rise to it.
Furtalizer, poop, gives rise to flowers, but flowers were never actually the poop itself, just because the poop gave rise to them.
Hope that makes sense!
Love,
Alex