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God took away His "unending love" from Saul

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Gina:
Hi Pat:

It's not a pleasurable thought, I give you that.  Ray mentioned that all that God has to do to make a vessel of dishonor is to take away His light from their life -- like He did Pharaoh.  And maybe the reason God does that is because He knows that the vessels of dishonor provide the perfect backdrop/contrast to make the goodness/mercies of God in the vessels of honor show up clearly?

JohnMichael:

--- Quote from: Gina on December 06, 2011, 09:59:38 AM ---Hi Pat:

It's not a pleasurable thought, I give you that.  Ray mentioned that all that God has to do to make a vessel of dishonor is to take away His light from their life -- like He did Pharaoh.  And maybe the reason God does that is because He knows that the vessels of dishonor provide the perfect backdrop/contrast to make the goodness/mercies of God in the vessels of honor show up clearly?

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Hi Gina,

The Scriptures answer your question also in Romans.

Romans 9:17 For the Scriptures say that God told Pharaoh, “I have appointed you for the very purpose of displaying my power in you and to spread my fame throughout the earth.”
Romans 9:18 So you see, God chooses to show mercy to some, and he chooses to harden the hearts of others so they refuse to listen.
Romans 9:19 Well then, you might say, “Why does God blame people for not responding? Haven’t they simply done what he makes them do?”
Romans 9:20 No, don’t say that. Who are you, a mere human being, to argue with God? Should the thing that was created say to the one who created it, “Why have you made me like this?”
Romans 9:21 When a potter makes jars out of clay, doesn’t he have a right to use the same lump of clay to make one jar for decoration and another to throw garbage into?
Romans 9:22 In the same way, even though God has the right to show his anger and his power, he is very patient with those on whom his anger falls, who are destined for destruction.
Romans 9:23 He does this to make the riches of his glory shine even brighter on those to whom he shows mercy, who were prepared in advance for glory.

In Him,
John

Gina:
Beautiful.

Ian 155:

--- Quote from: patmokgoko on December 03, 2011, 06:12:14 AM ---2 Samuel 7:15 But my mercy shall not depart away from him, as I took it (mercy) from Saul, whom I put away before thee.
Just curios to know how the mercies of God can be taken away from any person when His mercies are new every morning and endureth forever.His loving kindness are forever.Was it just a temporary thing, I mean the withdrawal of the mercies?How can God take His mercy away from someone.Forgive me if you discussed this before , just give me a reference, God Bless

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If you believe that Jesus is the son of God and God raised him from the dead then you shall be saved... this is about faith,or If you believe what is written is true and applies to you based on his word.So if his word says "I will never leave you nor forsake you" how do you read that ?Heb 13v5 actually is derived from Josh 1 v5.

Saul on the other hand was wicked in the sight of God, if you read carefully, was impatient and resorted to consulting with a witch or medium instead of waiting on Gods word thru the prophet Nathan.The old testament is a reference for us , it is judgement and wrath, we on the other hand are a New creation the old has gone - you can't put new wine,new teaching,New testament into old wine skins [old testament] Matt 9 v17 so read your word by faith...[the calling of God is irrevocable [do you believe this ?] Jesus has come,he is the new order,walk in the spiritual laws he set down,read the beatitudes.You now have claim to his mercies [his mercies are new every morning] Lam 3v23.

So what I believe is , if one resorts to the way of carnal man or mindset you have a problem in that he God would withdraw the mercy promised as you no longer are functioning by faith but rather by fear or you are actually an unbeliever in "Gods word",so you resort to the natural realm which is effectivly what Saul did [all for Gods purpose though] his sentence was forever however we walk under grace and he will cause us to see our unbelief and restore us after repentance.

And Philip said: If thou believest with all thy heart, thou mayest. And he answering, said: I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
acts 8v37 so when phillip saw that he believed he proceeded to baptise him ...Belief from the treasurer was the what made Phillip act if you are a believer God will act he will never leave you nor forsake you..

longhorn:
Another way to look at this or any verse in the entirety of scripture is that every single word in scripture from Genesis to Revelation, are words that proceeded out of the mouth of God, and we all willl live out ( by ) ( experience ) those words at our appointed time.  Matt 4:4  1 Cor 3:21  " All things are ours ".

Longhorn

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