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Gina:
That's true and thanks for pointing that out, Rene.   But then Marques was saying that the hypocrisy in the pulpit is what causes many led to God to be drawn right back out into the world, as if all it takes for a person to be led back into the world and run away from God's laws is the hypocrisy of others.  

That's part of it, but that's not the end of it.  It's a person's own weak, lustful heart that craves the world.  No one is led back into the world against their will because:

"...the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God’s law; indeed, it cannot."

Heck, Jesus was perfect and never hypocritical or dishonest, but even that wasn't enough to keep people from turning away from Him.  People like to sin -- which is not to say that we have license to be hypocritical because that's not what I'm saying.  It's like babies--they've been accustomed to breathing pure amniotic fluid for nine months and then they all of a sudden are forced to breathe air--it's no wonder they're crying when they're born! lol  They probably want to go back immediately to what they're accustomed to because air is foreign to them.  

I don't know if that makes sense, but I tried to make that as simple to understand as possible.  lol  

I have to go get ready for work now.............

(Please, don't anyone beat me up while I'm gone. lol)

mharrell08:

--- Quote from: Gina on December 08, 2011, 09:51:08 AM ---That's true and thanks for pointing that out, Rene.   But then Marques was saying that the hypocrisy in the pulpit is what causes many led to God to be drawn right back out into the world, as if all it takes for a person to be led back into the world and run away from God's laws is the hypocrisy of others.
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No Gina, I was not saying that 'all it takes' for a person to be led astray was to be disgusted by the church's hypocrisy. As you yourself noted, a statement of fact is not a statement of limitation.

The point of the quote was simply a modern example of what we read in the scriptures, that's all. Hope that clears up any misunderstanding.



Marques

Gina:
Thanks much. 

River:
Does mankind really need something to stand behind to hide? The way I see it we all are so selfish and ignorant. They may think they are hiding but it is no better than sticking you head in the sand. On that note I like to observe how those who shun all that is religious or spiritual use that as a cover as well.

gmik:
Teaching for Doctrines, the commandments of men....

thats what I have been thinking on lately cuz I watched a stupid special on the History channel...about Angels & Demons, but they talked about the "church" in the middle ages---torturing people because they taught the commandments of men as tho they were biblical doctrine....ugh...so chilling!!!  Poor Galileo!

and still going on in various degrees----adding JUNK to scripture, then DEMANDING unquestioned loyalty to THEM...

arrgghhh...

OK, now, I have vented, and can get on w/ the day....and think twice before I watch another one of those programs!

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