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newgene87:
I hope i worded that right? Just something that i read this morning. So, I have this daily scriptures app on my phone cause I take delight in reading random verses from the scriptures and one popped up today that threw me off. Okay, I don't know the full argument with Christians who are "homosexual" neither do I judge one bit, but I heard that they use David and Jonathan in their equation. Not only does it say, "...that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loves him as his own soul ...then Jonathan and David made a covenant, because he loved him as his own soul." (1Samuel18:1-3). Okay that may seem questionable to me but I don't just see it like that; maybe they were just close. Good good friends.....BUT, now the verse I'm getting to...

"I am distressed for thee, my brother Jonathan: very pleasant hast thou been unto me: THY LOVE TO ME WAS WONDERFUL, PASSING THE LOVE OF WOMEN." (2Samuel1:26). Now, I wasn't expecting to ever read a verse like that but that sounds like David and Jonathan were more than just "Friends" or "companions". Maybe Ray spoke on this matter before and I mean THAT VERSE BEFORE. Cause it says love passing the love of women. Now I will say, I am engaged to a beautiful woman and I'm perfect happy with that, it's just that verse really makes me think that maybe that says something that it's not implying?? If that makes sense? but can someone explain this verse to me? Again, hopefully I'm not offending anyone, I truly mean no offense but jut a question of truth on my part. I personally have a very close relative who lives that lifestyle and I don't judge him at all. I accept and love him. Just a question. Thanks

Deborah-Leigh:

Hi newgene87

Love is not wrong.

...we also "LOVE" with our heart, soul and mind as well " (Matt. 22:37). http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,1939.0.html

Homosexuality is not acceptable in God's eyes..http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3241.0.html

The interpretation that King David and Johnathan were homosexuals, is an attempt to defend homosexuality.

Arc

newgene87:
But "Love" for animals can cause a particular person to engage in sexual acts with them "beastiality I believe?) And a "Love" for kids can cause "molestation " . It wasn't just te love I saw was a problem but "thy love passing the love OF WOMEN" sounds like they were engaged in what women wold particularly do. But its okay now. Rena had an amazing comment to this so that was what I needed. It disappeared so idk what happened to it. And to me that verse is a STRONG defense for homosexualitu. He specifically said "passing the love of women" not just that he loved him. No it was deeper than that. So connecting that their "souls were knit", "they made a covenant", and "his love passing the love of WOMEN": strong cause. But just would've shown that David was unconverted, a murderer as well, adulterer, carnal, obviously a sinner. So adding homosexual to his resume wouldn't do anything. Murder and Adultery is stronger to me (if you Ask me anyway). Thanks :-)

Rene:
Hi Eugene,

Here are the comments I had posted:

I know it may be shocking to some to discover that David may have had a homosexual relationship, but I look at it differently.  What difference does it make?  I have come to understand that David was a sinner, he was carnal, and he died unconverted.  If David practiced such behavior, he, too, will be judged for these acts.  It certainly does not justify the behavior.  

 The apostle Paul acknowledged that some of the saints had practiced homosexuality also before being converted:

1Corinthians 6:9,11:

9 Have ye not known that the unrighteous the reign of God shall not inherit? be not led astray; neither whoremongers, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor sodomites,

11 And certain of you were these! but ye were washed, but ye were sanctified, but ye were declared righteous, in the name of the Lord Jesus, and in the Spirit of our God.


René

Gina:
That's an excellent response, Rene.  I never thought David could have had a "gay" relationship, and I know I would've been a little surprised to discover that especially after Bathsheba and all, but you're right--so what if he did?  It's another sin to be repented of.

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