bible-truths.com/forums

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Need Account Help?  Email bibletruths.forum@gmail.com   

Forgotten password reminders does not work. Contact the email above and state what you want your password changed to. (it must be at least 8 characters)

Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: Looks Like A Great Place To Be!  (Read 6929 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Tobias

  • Guest
Looks Like A Great Place To Be!
« on: December 29, 2011, 06:33:04 PM »

Hi all... I'm new to the universal salvation stuff but am on board 100% I started attending a non-denominational church when I was 8 years old and attended it or other churches of the same type my whole life.  I'm now 9 years old and 8 months.  Just kidding!  I'm 36.  :)  I'm also new to the "hell is a myth" camp but believe that 100% as well.  Two books by Martin Zender really helped me along when I started questioning the validity of the belief based salvation model.  Things just weren't adding up and I needed to address the issues the best I could.  Unfortunately, I couldn't get those answers from the mainstream church.  It was all the same old stuff that just filled me with more questions.

So yes, Everlasting and Eternal aren't really biblical and neither is freewill or hell.  I've been studying and making lots of notes on the bible verses that say the entire world will be reconciled to Christ one day and have been learning more and more.  I look forward to being here!
Logged

Kat

  • Guest
Re: Looks Like A Great Place To Be!
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2011, 06:47:01 PM »


Hi Tobias,

Glad you joined us  :)
You got me there for a second, 9 yrs old  :o  But it is nice to see people getting their eye opened. I hope you will stay with us and get into the discussions if you have questions.

Check out the forum rules, it will help you understand how this forum is moderated.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3.0.html
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,4558.0.html
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3614.0.html

General discussion board, this is to ask questions and discuss what is presented at the Bible-truths.com site.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/board,3.0.html

Child board for General discussion board - FAQ
(most frequently asked questions)
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/board,23.0.html

Forum Indexes & Info.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/board,14.0.html

Ray's Videos
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,8227.0.html

Ray's Audios 
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2641.0.html

Ray's 2008 Audios
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,8256.0.html

Transcripts of Audios
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/board,12.0.html

Off Topic board, this is to discuss things that do not directly relate to BT, you will find a good bit of humor here.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/board,4.0.html

child board on Off Topic board
Inspirationals, Writings, Poems, Etc.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/board,15.0.html

Testimonies / Prayer Requests / Fellowship board, this is mostly for personal posts.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/board,5.0.html

Child boards (only available to members) on Testimonies board
Who Am I? (members pics and other stuff)
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/board,16.0.html

Members Recipes, for sharing recipes and food tips
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/board,22.0.html

mercy, peace and love
Kat
Logged

Tobias

  • Guest
Re: Looks Like A Great Place To Be!
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2011, 07:03:36 PM »

Excellent!  Thanks, I'll check those out!
Logged

River

  • Guest
Re: Looks Like A Great Place To Be!
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2011, 10:20:18 PM »

Welcome Tobias! Great to hear your studying and checking things out. Be well.

River
Logged

Gina

  • Guest
Re: Looks Like A Great Place To Be!
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2011, 01:23:46 AM »

Quote
I'm now 9 years old and 8 months. Just kidding

haha, very funnyyyy.  lol   Welcommme, me lad.  ;D
Logged

Deborah-Leigh

  • Guest
Re: Looks Like A Great Place To Be!
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2011, 06:42:23 AM »



Tobias (Τοβίας) is a Greek version of the Hebrew biblical name "Toviyah" (טוביה), meaning "Yahweh is good"[1].http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobias

Hey Tobias, is that your personal or Avatar name?

Welcome to the Forum! ;D
Logged

cherokee

  • Bible-Truths Forum Member
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 452
    • facebook
Re: Looks Like A Great Place To Be!
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2011, 10:00:05 AM »

Hey Tobias,

Welcome to the forum.
Glad to have you here.

Blessings,
Suzie
Logged

Rene

  • Administrator
  • Bible-Truths Forum Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1478
Re: Looks Like A Great Place To Be!
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2011, 10:55:48 AM »


I'm new to the universal salvation stuff but am on board 100% more and more. 


Hi Tobias and welcome aboard!  There's much more to this "stuff" than meets the eye.  It's quite a joy ride! :)

René
Logged

Tobias

  • Guest
Re: Looks Like A Great Place To Be!
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2011, 02:10:29 PM »



Tobias (Τοβίας) is a Greek version of the Hebrew biblical name "Toviyah" (טוביה), meaning "Yahweh is good"[1].http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobias

Hey Tobias, is that your personal or Avatar name?

Welcome to the Forum! ;D

It's my screen name.  My real name is one that shared with one of the apostles.  :)
Logged

Deborah-Leigh

  • Guest
Re: Looks Like A Great Place To Be!
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2011, 02:14:20 PM »



Ahhhhh.... :D right! ;D Of course! ;D
Logged

gmik

  • Guest
Re: Looks Like A Great Place To Be!
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2011, 10:44:41 PM »

Welcome "Tobias".

I have read all of Zenders books and like him up to a point.  He differs on end time things and I believe Ray's Lake of Fire series is right up there w/ all-time classic American literature!!

Anyhoo, glad you have joined us and feel at home here!
Logged

Tobias

  • Guest
Re: Looks Like A Great Place To Be!
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2011, 12:01:10 AM »

Yeah, I've been raised my whole life with a big emphasis on end-time stuff... Recently though I started questioning a lot of that... I'm somewhat of a preterist as this point.  Don K Preston knows this stuff rather well and is worthy of a listen.  I'm still all the way there but it is interesting to me.  Another guy I like is Dr Jones of gods-kingdom-ministries.org.  He has an interesting take on what's going on in the Middle East right now. 

My mother also just had her first eschatology book published and released...  So I see a lot of different perspectives on the matter.
Logged

gmik

  • Guest
Re: Looks Like A Great Place To Be!
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2011, 03:49:43 PM »

wink wink  JFK   ;D
Logged

Tobias

  • Guest
Re: Looks Like A Great Place To Be!
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2012, 04:59:49 AM »

Yeah, I've been raised my whole life with a big emphasis on end-time stuff... Recently though I started questioning a lot of that... I'm somewhat of a preterist as this point.  Don K Preston knows this stuff rather well and is worthy of a listen.  I'm still all the way there but it is interesting to me.  Another guy I like is Dr Jones of gods-kingdom-ministries.org.  He has an interesting take on what's going on in the Middle East right now. 

My mother also just had her first eschatology book published and released...  So I see a lot of different perspectives on the matter.

I checked out the link to Dr. Jones.  He is definitely a man of god.  He accepts all major credit cards for the truths he sells.

That may be true... I haven't bought anything of his. I just have read the articles on his website.
Logged

Samson

  • Guest
Re: Looks Like A Great Place To Be!
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2012, 10:17:00 AM »

Hi all... I'm new to the universal salvation stuff but am on board 100% I started attending a non-denominational church when I was 8 years old and attended it or other churches of the same type my whole life.  I'm now 9 years old and 8 months.  Just kidding!  I'm 36.  :)  I'm also new to the "hell is a myth" camp but believe that 100% as well.  Two books by Martin Zender really helped me along when I started questioning the validity of the belief based salvation model.  Things just weren't adding up and I needed to address the issues the best I could.  Unfortunately, I couldn't get those answers from the mainstream church.  It was all the same old stuff that just filled me with more questions.

So yes, Everlasting and Eternal aren't really biblical and neither is freewill or hell.  I've been studying and making lots of notes on the bible verses that say the entire world will be reconciled to Christ one day and have been learning more and more.  I look forward to being here!

Good Morning Tobias,

I happen to like SOME of Jeff Priddy's(Aka-Martin Zender's) stuff, He does a pretty good job with the Free Will Myth, but it's against Forum Rules to discuss Him here. Actually, Ray mentions that He's friends with Jeff in one of His Audios, but Ray doesn't agree with the Concordant Fellows on everything. Ray says that Jeff is a nice Guy, but a little nuts in one of His Audio Studies, don't recall which one. Jeff Priddy is pretty funny with some of His Video's. Read below a comment from Ray regarding The Concordant Publishing Concern.

Denny,

[after some things personal...]

I came to understand a doctrine held by most people connected with the Concordant Publishing Concern (which includes Jeff and many of his Biblical teacher friends), with which I absolutely could not disagree more. It is the teaching that there are TWO administrations, and almost two of everything:

    Two ADMINISTRATIONS

    Two CALLINGS

    Two GOSPELS [Peter vs. Paul]

    Two RACIAL distinctions [the circumcision Jews and the uncircumcision Gentiles]

    Two RETURNS of Christ for His TWO sets of saints

    Two RESURRECTIONS [one at a co-called Rapture, and the other for the National lineage of Israel]

    Two REWARDS [again, one for Paul's group and one for Peter's]

    Two area of RULERSHIP [one for Israel on this earth, the other in the Heavens for the believers following Paul's gospel]

    Two DIFFERENT BODIES [one physical, terrestrial for earth-bound saints and one spiritual for those ruling in outer space--yes, they believe heaven is outer space], etc.

I completely Scripturally destroy this unscriptural and foolish doctrine with about two thousand Scriptures and a hundred pages in my paper located on the bible-truths.com site entitled: "EXPOSING THE SECRET RAPTURE THEORY."  It is my sincere hope and prayer that everyone will read my paper before they get involved in this deceitful doctrine.

I want to say this as clear as I possible can so as to not be misunderstood in the least by anyone: I believe that the doctrine of TWO ADMINISTRATIONS to be a damnable doctrine of demons. That's how strongly I feel about it. Read my paper...

Here is the sad thing about all this:  There are numerous studies and gatherings of people around the country who absolutely and Scripturally, believe that God is going to save all humanity. And that is a good thing.  However, that knowledge alone is NOT THE WHOLE GOSPEL, as Jeff suggests. There is more, MUCH MORE!  Everyone knows that I have quoted I Tim. 2:4 and written more about that one verse than maybe anyone else known, and yet, that verse alone is not the WHOLE GOSPEL.  It is merely the CONCLUSION, THE AIM, THE PURPOSE, THE GOAL, THE CONSUMMATION of the gospel. And yes, it is the grandest conclusion possible.

The above is just part of it, Tobias, you can check under Ray's Categorization of Ray's Emails & The Secret Rapture Article. Of course the above information has nothing to do with what you choose to believe or what I choose to believe, it's just meant to clarify that although Ray calls Jeff Priddy His Friend and says He's a nice Guy, He doesn't agree with Him.

Kind Regards, Samson.

Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up
 

Page created in 0.045 seconds with 22 queries.