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Kat:

I removed my reply upon reconsideration.

mercy, peace and love
Kay

markn902:
Gene that is confusing! I looked at some different translations on my esword and the CLV has that verse stated as a question.


Luk 16:9 And am I saying to you, Make for yourselves friends with the mammon of injustice, that, whenever it may be defaulting, they should be receiving you into the eonian tabernacles?

That makes a whole lot more sense to me anyway. I am not sure how they got to that translation as the other translations in my esword have it as a statement rather than a question.

Mark


Deborah-Leigh:

...And Paul says...drum roll.....

2Co 11:8  I robbed other churches by accepting support from them in order to serve you.  ;D

Gina:

--- Quote from: markn902 on January 09, 2012, 09:44:36 AM ---Gene that is confusing! I looked at some different translations on my esword and the CLV has that verse stated as a question.


Luk 16:9 And am I saying to you, Make for yourselves friends with the mammon of injustice, that, whenever it may be defaulting, they should be receiving you into the eonian tabernacles?

That makes a whole lot more sense to me anyway. I am not sure how they got to that translation as the other translations in my esword have it as a statement rather than a question.

Mark

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That's more like it. Thank you for pointing that out!

mharrell08:

--- Quote from: newgene87 on January 08, 2012, 09:34:36 PM ---Okay. I came across this verse while I was studying and I want to believe this is a mistranslation, a add on of the missing gospels or something cuz this seems like something Jesus would not say. So, in Luke 16:9, Jesus says something that is a contradiction or really seems like a contradiction. "And 'I SAY UNTO YOU, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon (riches) OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitation." Okay..."mammon of unrighteousness" just sounds so connected with the world. And that is easily referenced to 1John where it says, "Love not the world, neither THE THINGS IN THE WORLD....". Now that says world and not friend BUT we go to James 4:4 and we have, "ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? Whosoever therefore WILL BE A FRIEND OF THE WORLD (and can't I imply, things in the world??) Is the enemy of God". So, since this jumps out to me maybe this passage in Luke is one of those John 8:1-11 and the last chapter of Mark??? And if its permissable in Luke, someone please educate me why Jesus would say this? When James and John tells us otherwise.  Thanks. -)
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The phrase 'they may receive you', that's talking about those of the world, not God. Verse 11 & 12 give the meaning to the parable:

Luke 16:11-12  Therefore if you have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches? And if you have not been faithful in what is another man’s, who will give you what is your own?

Remember, these run of parables all talk about money just like Ray mentioned at the last conference in 2009. The unjust steward lost his position because he was stealing, that cost him his job. If one cannot be faithful with the world's fortunes, how could he be trusted with the true riches from God?

The steward then shows favor on the people of the land by giving them a discount so that they may return that favor once he is out of office. The people of the world, though unrighteous, should not be showed disdain but rather mercy [mercy triumphs judgment - James 2:13] and maybe even favor if the situation is needed. You never know when the people of the world can used by God to befriend you.


Marques

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