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The No Hell Defense?
jvsm1971:
Hello :) this is my first post, comment, but I would just like to add that 1 Cor 3:15 "If ANY mans work be BURNED he shall suffer loss though he himself shall be SAVED yet so as by FIRE. This verse demonstrates what exactly "Fire" is and what it does. This verse (for me) destroyed any notion of a chamber burning people endlessly. (Jessica).
mavis92379:
The more you get in touch with what the Scriptures really teach you will really see that you can prove the truth on this matter from almost any chapter in the New Testament. Its so hard to pick one main point at this time for me. It would be like asking me what is the main reason I dont believe in the bogey man. ITS NOT REAL ! As you study the teachings on this site and grow familiar with the hundreds of concepts and principals the scripture teach you will begin to see just how foreign this concept of hell is and that trying to find ONE BEST THING to sum it all up best with is just impossible. To answer your question directly though I think the following scriptures are all equally the simplest concepts :
Rom 5:18,11:32
1Cor 15:22,28
Philp 2:10
1Tim 2:4,4:10
1John 4:14
You do not need to interpret or logically prove anything in these scriptures just read them over and over to anyone who asks you to give account. They are direct statements that need no explanations.
I have dumb founded many people by asking them If the penalty for sins is eternal hell like they are claiming than why did Jesus not have to burn in hell to pay for our sins? This is an extremly easy concept :
The penalty for sin is death ! Rom 6:23
Jesus paid our penalty by dying ! 1Cor 15:3
If someone is going to claim that the penalty for sin is burning in hell forever than they most also admit for Jesus to carry their penalty he must also have need to burn eternally.
Pretty simple huh ?
I know I said I dont believe in the bogey man but what people say and do after I put it that plainly is pretty close to seeing him.
Gina:
Beautiful Matt! This is the best! Thank you. (Used that one myself. I think I learned it from you.)
--- Quote ---I have dumb founded many people by asking them If the penalty for sins is eternal hell like they are claiming than why did Jesus not have to burn in hell to pay for our sins? This is an extremly easy concept :
The penalty for sin is death ! Rom 6:23
Jesus paid our penalty by dying ! 1Cor 15:3
If someone is going to claim that the penalty for sin is burning in hell forever than they most also admit for Jesus to carry their penalty he must also have need to burn eternally.
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Gina:
--- Quote ---Okay, here it is:
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin IS DEATH ; but the gift of God is ETERNAL LIFE through Jesus Christ our Lord.
There it is. What is the "WAGES" of sin? There is no "gift" for sin, there is only "WAGES" for sin. So what IS the "wages" of sin, is it "eternal LIFE?" or "DEATH?" Well we just read it, the "wages of sin is DEATH"--not eternal LIFE in hell.
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http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,13793.msg121620.html#new
This is beautiful too. Used this one too. Got it from Ray. lol
Shawn Fainn:
--- Quote from: Gina on January 12, 2012, 09:42:01 AM ---
--- Quote ---Okay, here it is:
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin IS DEATH ; but the gift of God is ETERNAL LIFE through Jesus Christ our Lord.
There it is. What is the "WAGES" of sin? There is no "gift" for sin, there is only "WAGES" for sin. So what IS the "wages" of sin, is it "eternal LIFE?" or "DEATH?" Well we just read it, the "wages of sin is DEATH"--not eternal LIFE in hell.
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http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,13793.msg121620.html#new
This is beautiful too. Used this one too. Got it from Ray. lol
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Was thinking of summarizing that same point on facebook as well. Ended up just linking the email. :)
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