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Truth96130:
I am a Christen. I pray every day, worship on the piano, study the bible and have a wonderful relationship with my heavenly father. I am a Christen Universalist. There are no Christian Universalist churches near me so I do not go to church. However I have seen some people say we are commanded to go to church and they use this verse Hebrews 10/25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together....
If this means we are under a command from God to meet with other people that believe the way we do then that brings up a lot of contradictions.
What if there is no one you know that is a christen Universalist?
If you meet in a church but you do not meet in the church down the road then you are forsaking the church down the road and you are breaking the command.
If every church is to far away to travel to each Sunday then your breaking the command. If you get sick and can not go to church then you are breaking the command. If you are a kid and your parents decide not to take you to church then the kids would be breaking the Command. If the power gos out and you get snowed in and can not go to church then you are breaking the command. You see if this verse means we are under a command from God to attend church then we run into some bad contradictions. Jesus did not attend church. If not going to church was a sin then Jesus sinned. Paul did not go to church (as far as I know) when he was in prison.
The only logical conclusions I can come to is that we are not under a commandment by God to go to church. Otherwise God maid a commandment that Jesus did not keep which would make Jesus a sinner. However Jesus was a perfect man. So if you can be perfect and not go to church then church is not necessary for perfection. Do any of you know of any material that Ray has on this subject? I believe this verse is simply stating that if we have a group of friends that are christens like us and we begin to meet together in some way that it is wise to continue to meet together and not a grudging obligation, otherwise we run into too many contradictions. Peace.

Deborah-Leigh:


This should fix that Truth96130  :)

NOT FORSAKING THE ASSEMBLING OF OURSELVES TOGETHER

In Hebrews 10:25 were are admonished as follows:

"Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as you see the day approaching."

That this is speaking of believers congregating together to worship and study God’s Word, there can be no doubt. However, there is a much deeper meaning to this "assembling" that few have ever seen. I never saw it myself until I read a paper by J. Preston Eby, entitled: "FORSAKE NOT THE ASSEMBLING."

I will quote an excerpt or two from his paper:

"The Greek word for ‘assembling’ is EPISUNAGOGE. The word, literally, is a verb meaning to synagogue. It is a compound of the Greek prefix EPI with the word SUNAGOGE from which we get our transliterated English word Synagogue. EPI means super – imposition – that which is above, higher than, highest, upon. SUNAGOGE means a meeting, assembly, or gathering. Putting these two words together, EPI-SUNAGOGE means THE ABOVE SYNAGOGUE, THE HIGHER MEETING, THE HIGHEST ASSEMBLY, THE HIGHER-THAN-ALL-GATHERINGS!

It bespeaks of something far greater than merely collecting so many breathing bodies together in one place.

It is a meeting in a higher realm, on a higher plane, in the high places of the Spirit, and in the heights of Truth. It is a gathering together in a dimension above. It indicates an assembling IN THE SPIRIT…"

(All Caps belong to Mr. Eby).

This Greek word episunagoge is used only one other time in Scripture, and that is in II Thes. 2:1:

"Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together [Gk: episunagoge] unto Him."

In Hebrews 10 we are admonished to "assemble" in an high meeting, a meeting in the SPIRIT! In II Thes. 2 this meeting in the Spirit will become a literal meeting with our Lord.

And so, back to our question once more: Which denomination should we join? Where should we go to Church? Where should we "forsake not the assembling of ourselves together?" In a physical building of some physical denomination? No. WE are to episunagoge (assemble) on a higher plane, in a higher realm, in a spiritual assembly, IN THE SPIRIT!

This is not something new. This is exactly what Jesus Christ taught regarding where and how we are to (go to church) worship God.

"The woman said unto Him, Sir, I perceive that you are a prophet. Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye [all the Jews] say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. Jesus said unto her, Woman, believe Me, the hour comes, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour comes, and now is, when the TRUE worshippers shall worship the Father in SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH: for the Father seeks such to worship Him. God is Spirit: and they that worship Him MUST worship in SPIRIT AND TRUTH" (John 4:19:24).

We have got to get out of the depths of Satan if we are to worship God in Spirit and Truth. The Church is filled with the depths of Satan. That is not the place to go to worship God in spirit and truth. Did Jesus go to the synagogues to worship His God?

"And when He [Jesus] had sent the multitudes away, He went up into a mountain apart [Gk: ‘by Himself’] to pray: and when the evening was come, He was there alone" (Matt. 14:23).

Amazing, isn’t it. Jesus "assembled [Gk: episunagoge]" with His Father BY HIMSELF, ALONE. We can do the same. Not just on Sunday morning or Wednesday evening, with a crowd, in a building, but on every day of the week, and we can do it while we are ALONE.

How often church buildings and temples are referred to as "The House of God." This is nonsense. God does NOT dwell in houses, buildings, churches, or temples made with hands.

"God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that He is Lord of heaven and earth, dwells NOT in temples made with hands."

And

"Howbeit the Most High dwells NOT in temples made with hands" (Acts 17:24 & 7:48).

How often Jerusalem is called, "The Holy City." People want to visit Jerusalem because they think it is HOLY GROUND. There is nothing holy about it. Constantly Satan’s ministers refer to Jerusalem as the Holy City, and how we should pray for "the peace of Jerusalem." Let me assure you that all of those prayers are going to go unanswered because, "…for the son of the bondwoman [Jerusalem that now is--under bondage] shall not be heir with the son of the free woman [Jerusalem which is above and free]" (Gal. 4:30b).

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Deborah-Leigh:


Each time I read the BTF or speak to or with or write into the Forum, or to and with others who believe,  I am assembling with Spirit and with Truth. That happens every day, not just once a week... :)

Arc

Heidi:

--- Quote from: Arcturus on January 15, 2012, 05:27:34 AM ---

Each time I read the BTF or speak to or with or write into the Forum, or to and with others who believe,  I am assembling with Spirit and with Truth. That happens every day, not just once a week... :)

Arc

--- End quote ---

Thanks Arc....that is so true  ;D

Truth96130:
So what is the correct response to people that say you must assemble together because the bible says do not forsake the assembly of your selves together?
Are these words of Paul not for us?

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