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Does anyone else here fear God?
marrcus:
Does anyone else here fear God? I do. I am scared that the eternal torment
stuff might be true.
I have been following various online discussions (on other sites) about the
ultimate fate of the damned. There seems to be three possibilities:
1. eternal torment (the mainstream favorite)
2. annihilation (with or without preliminary torment)
3. universal reconciliation (with or without preliminary torment)
For every scripture or argument in favor of one option,
there are others against. The evidence and arguments seem
more or less equal, at least to my untrained mind.
This has been hurting my head for weeks.
I have no ego in this, no axe to grind.
How do others cope with the dilemma?
I appreciate all advice.
cheekie3:
marrcus
The best source to address and answer your questions and concerns is “The Lake of Fire“ series; and the Bill Weiss paper.
There is no eternal punishment or extermination for anyone.
God is creating children after His own Likeness; and this is a long and at times very painful experience through His Judgements (Chastisements) on each and every one of us, through much tribulation as only through the experience of Evil can we understand and choose Good.
It is mainly through our experiences of both Good and Evil that God creates His own characteristics in us.
I trust this helps.
George.
Mbongiseni:
Hi Marcus
Welcome youngman!
It will serve you a good purpose to read first the "Lake of fire series" especially Installment 16 in its entirety. By the time you finish the first three subsections; will be fulfilled Psalm 36:9 For with You is the fountain of life;In Your light we see light.
Please enjoy your reading and the Spirit of Wisdom abide in you.
Mbo
John9362:
No I don't fear my Father, I love Him and He Loves me even more !
Read the BT website, works for me ;) :)
arion:
Welcome to the forum. The knowledge of the truth doesn't come through reading. God has to open our eyes to his truth in his time. That being said I also agree that you need to read through the lake of fire series, the letters to Kennedy and Hagee as well as 'hell is a Christian Hoax' paper. The main problem with Christendom is the constant contradictions. Two small things to whet your appetite. First of all, is there anything in the scriptures which indicate as to what God thinks about burning people in literal fire? Yes there is.
In the old testament the pagans had a nasty habit of burning their firstborn to cinders in real fire as a sacrifice to the gods. There are many scriptures about this. Here is one.
Jer 32:35 And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.
The 'passing through the fire' is an euphemism for burning their children in real fire. We are told in the verse above that the practice of burning people in real fire is an abomination to the Lord. And the word for mind [leb] is better translated as heart. It never even entered God's heart to have people burn in real fire. Yet Christendom tells us that God will do this abomination to most of humanity.
Working through the papers on the website you will find out that the words translated as 'hell' doesn't mean what we are told that it means and Ray proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Let me leave you with one more scripture that every Christian will confess that they believe and yet in their heart of hearts hardly any believe this.
1Jn 4:7-8 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
We are told that God is love. And we are told in other scriptures that we are told to love our enemies and to do good to those who abuse us and persecute us. Yet the church would have us believe that at the moment of a sinners death that God's love fails and his 'love' turns to vehement hatred. You can't be 'love' and at the same time torture your enemies for all eternity.
Work your way through the papers and the teachings. It takes time to unlearn the errors we were brought up with and to come to the knowledge of the truth of these things. Just stick with it. In time God will open your eyes and reveal these truths to you.
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