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Duane:
A "B-T" detractor, close to me, wondered HOW i could possibly believe "Ray's/B-T" Bible "truths" when the Bible so
CLEARLY STATED her "fundamental" church beliefs:  Quoting partially below

"....end up trying to telling God why His CLEAR DIRECTIONS..."  ("..in the Bible"--and NOT following them)

Anyone studying the Bible KNOWS that God deliberately wrote the Bible so it WASN'T CLEAR --just like He talked on earth in PARABLES--"so that they (even the disciples) wouldn't understand."

Matthew 13:10 "And the disciples came and said unto Him, "Why do you speak to them in parables?"
13. "Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand."
14-(Repeats Prophecy of Isaiah)
15. "For the hearts of this people have grown dull. There ears are hard of hearing and their eyes they have closed, LEST they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears. LEST they should understand with their hearts and turn, SO THAT I SHOULD HEAL THEM."

I believe the reason that the Bible is written much like a parable is that the Bible is understood at different levels as God has pre-ordained-- that people want to understand. Some people REALLY WANT to know God and the Bible SO God allows them a DEEPER UNDERSTANDING of His Word.

But BECAUSE God DIDN'T write the Bible CLEARLY --people and translator's have drawn an array of conclusions BASED on the same BOOK!

This has resulted in people SINCERELY BELIEVING different "truths".

BECAUSE the Bible was written on different levels of understanding and NOT CLEARLY--
You have:

The Calvinists vs. the Armenians
The pre, mid and post millenial-ists
Seventh Day worshipers vs. Sunday worshipers
Jews/those who hold to Biblical OT laws vs. protestant
Literal Hell vs. Greek meaning of hell/hades/unseen
Security of the believer vs. Non-security
Trans-substantiation of the Lord's body vs. symbolism communion
Confessing to a priest vs. Praying directly to God
Translators disagreeing over "eon'/eonian vs. eternal/everlasting
Sprinkling/infant baptism vs. immersion after knowledgeable salvation
and a whole HOST of sub-discussions---

Then , there's even the TRANSLATORS disagreeing over "eon'/eonian vs. eternal/everlasting

WHY--Didn't God spell everything right out so that there was NO CONFUSION?

WELL--HE DID!  Just ASK ANYONE who believes ANY of the ABOVE and they will say:
"The Bible is just as "clear as day" about what "I" believe!"
(Everyone else that believes DIFFERENTLY is either a "heretic" OR "has the verses that
"prove their point--OUT OF CONTEXT"!  (Or, the CHURCH accepts this as "inspired")

The MIRACLE OF IT ALL is that even with EVERYBODY understanding the Bible "clearly states"--
THEIR VIEWS--there is NO CONTRADICTION in the Bible!  ONLY GOD could "pull that one off"!

Gina:
hehe,  Love, love, love those CAPS, Duane.   ;D

G. Driggs:
I've heard there are some that do know the truth but lie anyway to keep their church scared, and keep them monies rolling in. Even some of the early translators knew aion does not mean "forever", but that didnt stop them. Either way all is of God.  Just a thought to consider and spot on with what you said.

Peace,

G.Driggs

Deborah-Leigh:

Right Duane.

Like your signature says....He chooses us, we don't choose Him, though we might think we do, claim we do, believe we do...yet in all His Wisdom, He chooses, elects, selects and determines, that He shall save the world!

 We aren't in exclusion of the world, but inclusion of the world for he came to save the world and that's us and all....Pretty neat huh! :) Thy Kingdom come on earth as it is in Heaven... 8)

Arc

jccarterjr:
When you have been surrounded by lies your entire life, spiritual and physical, it the truth gets cold and hard, and that mirror starts showing a distorted image. I know I have walked that path.

Over a year ago this site helped me remember that Jesus is the way the truth and the light. The truth will set you free. Recently I have come to understand in a very personal way that some people were never meant to hear the truth.

Only those with wisdom will understand my words. I know it's Jesus speaking but where does not really matter what matters is that we have to accept the truth that not everyone will be saved. Why do you think he asked the Father to remove this cup, not because he was going to face the cross, but because he was going to come back as the lion. Dying for our sins was the easy part. Judging us, now that is something he would rather avoid. I had a vision of what could look like and it was not something I wish on anyone.

That's why I focus on the message, the last commandment of Christ. Love even your enemy as you love yourself. The rest of the book is just instructions on how to do that. Revelation is what happens if we don't.

The next time you see a brother or sister falling in their faith remind them what Christ commands of us and remember love has many forms and some times it has to get tough. I know God has taken to me with the rod many times, but he always protects me with the staff. Love even your enemy as God has loved you. If God forgives us, who am I not to forgive?

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