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The Bible "clearly states??"
Craig:
O.K. but what of my first question?
--- Quote ---Have you really read and studied anything that Ray teaches on www.bibletruths.com?
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If you have where do you see a belief in what you state?
Craig
jccarterjr:
I think I put it in my hello in another forum discussion, but I found this site over a year ago and got what I needed from it then.
You see I was living in sin with a non believer. I felt a call to get back to church and I went to a small one because I had developed a repulsion to organized religion, so my logic (which was proved wrong) said go to a smaller church to find less of the big bad message that had plagued my spiritual development.
I was told the whole unequally yoked thing and what I found here I saw to be true. While I found truth in what Ray had to say on that subject, I also know that no man is infallible, even me.I am married to that woman now. Happily married. She still chooses not to believe, but I believe the scripture that says the wife is sanctified by the husband. So it was Ray that led me to marry an unbeliever by embracing the last commandment of Christ. Love even your enemy as you love yourself.
Christ said if you are not for me you are against me. My wife is not for Christ, but I love her more than anyone who is not my son. She learns from my example of what a Christian is. A man who loves his wife enough to reject one of the most popular falsehoods of his faith. A man who challenges that false hood everyday he is married to his wife. A man who lives Christ commandment to love his enemy. I would sacrifice my life for wife with out thought. I face persecution daily for marrying an unbeliever and I face that persecution from people who profess to be Christians.
So following the truth I found in Rays words gave me the strength to challenge everything I was ever taught. So yeah I have read his stuff.
Any other questions?
Craig:
--- Quote ---Any other questions?
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Yes, have you comprehended anything that Ray has taught?
I think not, because all of your posts so far attest to this. I am left with 2 opinions.
1) You say you have read and studied the teachings that the forum is about, and you do not understand them.
2) You have not really read anything and you lie.
Now I will give the benefit of the doubt and assume you don't understand. Please read the teachings before posting. It will be better for everyone.
Craig
jccarterjr:
When I filled out my questionnaire I said I was seeking the truth. I said that while I found truth in one of Rays teachings that had a profound effect on my life that I find the the last commandment of Christ covers it all all. I think Ray would agree with me. I do however do not appreciate being attacked in the way you have just attacked me.
I hold that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior and that there is but one way to the father. Jesus Christ.
I hold that Christs last commandment is to love even my enemy as I love myself. I don;t want enemies. I don;t look for enemies. I am not trying to be your enemy.
Ask Ray if I have it wrong, but don't speak for him. That is rude.
Deborah-Leigh:
Hi jccarterjr
--- Quote from: jccarterjr on February 12, 2012, 11:11:07 AM ---I was listening to a pastor who had been studying for many years and he was relaying that the use of the word perish in this verse in the original text translates to cease to exist. It sounded correct and I have asked others of faith who have studied such things and they seemed to have no problem with that interpretation. I am interested in truth no matter what the source. The answers are not in one place but anyplace God chooses to speak to us.
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Do you have any objection to what Ray says, quote :
PERISHED: Can a person perish and still be saved? Of course. Even "righteous" men can perish,
"All things have I seen in the days of my vanity: there is a JUST MAN that PERISHES in his righteousness, and there is a wicked man that prolongs his life in his wickedness" (Ecc. 7:15).
One more,
"The RIGHTEOUS PERISHES, and no man lays it to heart..." (Isa. 57:1).
Perishing is not something that can cut off God’s arm of salvation. http://bible-truths.com/lake4.html
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