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Revilonivek:
--- Quote from: Kat on April 01, 2012, 11:05:12 AM ---
Hi Denise,
--- Quote ---I need to keep in mind that the bible is more geared toward people who have the natural inclination in the spiritual eyes and ears department.
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You are thinking in the right direction, but :) It is not 'natural' to have spiritual eyes and ears, actually it's the opposite of what is natural.
1Co 2:14 The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.
Yes it is a gift from God that anyone is given eyes to see these truths and that gift is the Holy Spirit indwelling.
John 14:26 and the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and remind you of all things that I said to you.
The Holy Spirit from God is what must increase within us and we (our carnality) must decrease or die daily, so to become more like Jesus Christ. That's what the Holy Spirit will accomplish in us.
Php 3:10 that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection, and may share His sufferings, becoming like Him in His death,
--- Quote ---Adam and Eve did partake of the tree of good and evil. we did not.
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The tree of good and evil that Adam and Eve ate/partook of was a representation of what all of humanity will/is doing. We are all eating/living/partaking of good and evil as we live this life in all it's many degrees and extremes. Though I believe that the whole garden scene was literal, it represents/symbolizes something far greater. Because we all have followed in their footsteps and eat of the tree of good and evil (symbolically). Since our natural mind is carnal and enmity to God, in doing so we sin, as we are far to weak to resist it, and all that sin shall die.
Rom 8:6-7 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace, because the carnal mind is enmity against God, for it is not subject to the Law of God, neither indeed can it be.
1Co 15:21 For since death is through man, the resurrection of the dead also is through a Man.
v. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all will be made alive.
So the Holy Spirit is a gift and God has already chosen who He will give it to, none of us know who those chosen are, so keep on seeking.
Act 17:26-27 Besides, He makes out of one every nation of mankind, to be dwelling on all the surface of the earth, specifying the setting of the seasons and the bounds of their dwelling, for them to be seeking God, if, consequently, they may surely grope for Him and may be finding Him, though to be sure, not far from each one of us is He (CLV)
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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Thanks Kat.
The spiritual eyes and ears may not be natural to humans but it is given by God regardless. It is a gift that many of us do not have. same applies to other gifts God gives to humans. not everyone has the same gifts. I just have to trust God with my life. Whatever he wants. He's the boss. He's doing all the work. Fine.. He is just making it hard for many of us to know him. but I understand the reasons. It's frustrating though. Honestly, I have no clue who God is. I don't know him personally. If he wants to me to know him, like Jesus did.. he will make it so. no point fighting it. He will do the work, the dragging. I just have to trust him with my life.
Thanks again,
Denise
onelovedread:
Denise,
I really admire your honesty. What you say is not "pretty" but I don't think it shocks God. I sincerely believe that if you just wait for God, He will reveal Himself to you and show you the plans and purposes He has for your life. It seems to me that you are totally bare before Him, angst and all. One thing's for sure He could never accuse you of hypocrisy:) I will pray for you and you can pray for me.
Onelove
darren:
Greetings all, thanks to those who gave me some insight on my post. It had taken many decades to learn how to forgive. I had got to a point in my life where the hate was a cancer that just ate me up. My mom and dad was not reaching out to me in forgiveness. They had many yrs to do so. I just got tired and prayed everynight for The Lord to show me HOW to forgive. I did not know how. Anyway I learn some hard and valueable life lessons. I would not treat my family the way I grew up. Yrs latter I can see the lessons. Not at that time.
Revilonivek: I hear ya, Why extream evil? Good n evil, right n wrong, to be or not to be. That is the question I asked of me. I been hear at BT since Katrina 06 and I have come to understand through Ray's teachings 3 undeniable truths.
1. There is a God
2. I am not HE
3. there are things that I will never understand until and if ever God shows me.
I just try to leave certain question alone and not dwell on them. I need to make it through today. Tomorrow will bring its own troubles. I deal with tomorrow when It gets here.
Thanks BT.
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