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I'm a (fill in blank), you're a (fill in blank) "If I EXPLAIN you will"---NADA!
Vangie:
I'm a Pepper, you're a Pepper, wouldn't you like to be a Pepper too? Okay, I'm dating myself, but that's what I thought when I saw your topic! I know I'm late, but I thought we could lighten things up a bit!
Duane:
I have had to READ my own post-- to LEARN-- what I ALREADY know!! DUH!
I have taken it upon myself to become a self-described "know-it-all" on the topic of "hell"!
I read and studied, THEN re-read and re-studied-- Julie Ferwerda's book "Raising Hell" --then
the same thing as above with Jackson Baer's book "What the Hell?--How Did We Get it So Wrong"!
I felt pretty "armed and assured" when TRYING to share the GOOD NEWS with a stranger in a long clinic line; and, a relative!
NO WHERE!! They LOVE to believe; and, feel SECURE IN BELIEVING what they have ALWAYS BELIEVED no matter what!
"When will I ev--er leeearn? When will I eeeee-ver leeeearn!" ---Peter, Paul and (Saint) Mary :-)
Shawn Fainn:
If I only could've read that when I first came here.. lol
Oh well, guess it's good for some of us to learn the hard way :)
Gina:
I love this.
The whole reason I'm here is because I was suckered in to a theological debate with my very good friend, who also happened to be an attorney and knew how to argue. ;) It was about 10 years ago and at a time when I was going to church.* I was on the phone with my friend trying my best to answer her questions. She was totally interrogating me about the church's teaching that God sends people to hell. She was on the phone but she was in my face! lol
And I couldn't answer her questions.
And I tossed and turned every night for about months agonizing over it thinking to myself, Well, I actually like what she's trying to convince me of, but what if I have "itching ears"? What if I only like what I'm hearing because it sounds appealing? You know, because it would be kind of God if He wouldn't be angry with people to the point of fire and brimstone for ever and ... ever ... and .... ever.
I was actually afraid to question the hell teaching. I didn't agree with it, I just didn't want to go there and I thought well, if I have itching ears then I'm definitely going to hell! One day I finally just said, screw it and googled "Is tithing scriptural"; I literally was holding my breath waiting for lightning to strike me (Oh, Lord, I don't mean to question you or your judgments... lol.) and Ray's site was about the third from the top. And here I am to this day. And some of you shaking your heads. Hey, that's okay! :D
If you know how to debate the right way -- which I'm still learning, you never know who you might get thinking. But if the motive behind your debate is off (ego-driven) you may as well hang it up.
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* It was great. My daughter and I went there for three years and when we started attending the Pastor was starting the book of Genesis. It took him literally three years to finish the Book of Geneses. It is what God used to ready me for Ray's papers, none of which I would have understood nearly as well were it not for the teaching I received in church. So I thank God for that pastor.)
Gina:
p.s. The name of my friend just happens to be NADA. ha!
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