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servias:
Before I quit I had stopped caffeine just to see if I could do it. Caffeine (to me anyways) is like nicotine light. I went back to caffeine at 30 days but still drinking maybe half as much (diet coke addict).
While its still fresh in my mind....quitting "nicotine" made me extremely short tempered to my family. But once the nicotine is out of your veins it gets easier each day. Watching my grandfather die with emphysema, hooked up to an oxygen tank should have made me quit sooner than I did. He was 76 and yes that is average.....but dying because you cant breathe for your last year is not an easy way to go. I pray that all my BT friends can work on their various addictions (including my own).
Gina:
DantheMan:
Will you pray instead, not my will but Thy will? I pray that. I pray, God, if you will, please give me the ability to break my addiction to cigarettes. However, not my will but Thy will.
And I say, if Thy will is to not give me the ability to break this addiction, please will You be kind to me and grant me to not die from [INSERT INSANELY PAINFUL CAUSE OF DEATH HERE]?
Someone here thinks that's funny. That's alright. Let me finish, please.
Dan, This is the reality: You see your relatives'/friends' pasts and then project their pasts onto your future.
But you won't stop there, no --you go on to project their pasts on to e-v-e-r-y other smokers' future. Gee. Thanks!
:)
Did you know God gave me the ability to read minds? I do read minds and I know what's on the tip of your tongue: "But, Gina, it could happen and I'm just here to warn you!" How thoughtful! But guess what else? I could also get run over by a Mack Truck tomorrow, effectively exposing you as a false prophet. When was the last time you warned anyone about that? Besides, Jesus never sinned. Remember how He died?
Whoever you non-smokers are, I'll be the first to tell you I am really glad that God didn't cause you to become smokers.
And if you quit smoking, I'll be the first to tell you I'm glad God gave you the power and ability to quit smoking. I'll also be quick to confess that I'm just a wee bit jealous that God granted you that ability and not me at this time. Paul provoked his brothers to jealousy in order that he might save some, so it's not a sin to provoke someone to jealousy -- if the ends justify the means.
It's one thing to provoke someone to jealousy in the hopes it will cause them to a take a step in the right direction.
It's quite a n o t h e r to stand in God's place and tell someone the manner in which they will die. (Consider yourself duly warned.)
Do you think that smokers are deserving of the worst possible most painful death because we're wanting to break God's laws? Or will you have mercy? Instead of ultimately imagining humongous medical costs and unbelievable amounts of angst and grief onto my daughters and other family members and all those who love me-thinking that will (could?) be the end of me, do me a favor and pray that God will take what holds me captive, captive, if it is His will.
Thanks.
servias:
--- Quote from: Gina on July 06, 2012, 10:45:51 PM ---DantheMan:
Will you pray instead, not my will but Thy will? I pray that. I pray, God, if you will, please give me the ability to break my addiction to cigarettes. However, not my will but Thy will.
And I say, if Thy will is to not give me the ability to break this addiction, please will You be kind to me and grant me to not die from [INSERT INSANELY PAINFUL CAUSE OF DEATH HERE]?
Someone here thinks that's funny. That's alright. Let me finish, please.
Dan, This is the reality: You see your relatives'/friends' pasts and then project their pasts onto your future.
But you won't stop there, no --you go on to project their pasts on to e-v-e-r-y other smokers' future. Gee. Thanks!
:)
Did you know God gave me the ability to read minds? I do read minds and I know what's on the tip of your tongue: "But, Gina, it could happen and I'm just here to warn you!" How thoughtful! But guess what else? I could also get run over by a Mack Truck tomorrow, effectively exposing you as a false prophet. When was the last time you warned anyone about that? Besides, Jesus never sinned. Remember how He died?
Whoever you non-smokers are, I'll be the first to tell you I am really glad that God didn't cause you to become smokers.
And if you quit smoking, I'll be the first to tell you I'm glad God gave you the power and ability to quit smoking. I'll also be quick to confess that I'm just a wee bit jealous that God granted you that ability and not me at this time. Paul provoked his brothers to jealousy in order that he might save some, so it's not a sin to provoke someone to jealousy -- if the ends justify the means.
It's one thing to provoke someone to jealousy in the hopes it will cause them to a take a step in the right direction.
It's quite a n o t h e r to stand in God's place and tell someone the manner in which they will die. (Consider yourself duly warned.)
Do you think that smokers are deserving of the worst possible most painful death because we're wanting to break God's laws? Or will you have mercy? Instead of ultimately imagining humongous medical costs and unbelievable amounts of angst and grief onto my daughters and other family members and all those who love me-thinking that will (could?) be the end of me, do me a favor and pray that God will take what holds me captive, captive, if it is His will.
Thanks.
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I'm not sure if your being funny or being serious here...
If you are being serious I have to tell you I do not appreciate being painted as someone who is prophet, standing in God's place, and wishing harm or type of death to anyone. This is not me, maybe I have a hard time communicating on here? (I gave up facebook for that very reason just yesterday.)
If I just took what you said completely out of context or you were joking around I apologize.
Dan
acomplishedartis:
--- Quote from: DanTheMan on July 06, 2012, 11:55:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: Gina on July 06, 2012, 10:45:51 PM ---DantheMan:
Will you pray instead, not my will but Thy will? I pray that. I pray, God, if you will, please give me the ability to break my addiction to cigarettes. However, not my will but Thy will.
And I say, if Thy will is to not give me the ability to break this addiction, please will You be kind to me and grant me to not die from [INSERT INSANELY PAINFUL CAUSE OF DEATH HERE]?
Someone here thinks that's funny. That's alright. Let me finish, please.
Dan, This is the reality: You see your relatives'/friends' pasts and then project their pasts onto your future.
But you won't stop there, no --you go on to project their pasts on to e-v-e-r-y other smokers' future. Gee. Thanks!
:)
Did you know God gave me the ability to read minds? I do read minds and I know what's on the tip of your tongue: "But, Gina, it could happen and I'm just here to warn you!" How thoughtful! But guess what else? I could also get run over by a Mack Truck tomorrow, effectively exposing you as a false prophet. When was the last time you warned anyone about that? Besides, Jesus never sinned. Remember how He died?
Whoever you non-smokers are, I'll be the first to tell you I am really glad that God didn't cause you to become smokers.
And if you quit smoking, I'll be the first to tell you I'm glad God gave you the power and ability to quit smoking. I'll also be quick to confess that I'm just a wee bit jealous that God granted you that ability and not me at this time. Paul provoked his brothers to jealousy in order that he might save some, so it's not a sin to provoke someone to jealousy -- if the ends justify the means.
It's one thing to provoke someone to jealousy in the hopes it will cause them to a take a step in the right direction.
It's quite a n o t h e r to stand in God's place and tell someone the manner in which they will die. (Consider yourself duly warned.)
Do you think that smokers are deserving of the worst possible most painful death because we're wanting to break God's laws? Or will you have mercy? Instead of ultimately imagining humongous medical costs and unbelievable amounts of angst and grief onto my daughters and other family members and all those who love me-thinking that will (could?) be the end of me, do me a favor and pray that God will take what holds me captive, captive, if it is His will.
Thanks.
--- End quote ---
I'm not sure if your being funny or being serious here...
If you are being serious I have to tell you I do not appreciate being painted as someone who is prophet, standing in God's place, and wishing harm or type of death to anyone. This is not me, maybe I have a hard time communicating on here? (I gave up facebook for that very reason just yesterday.)
If I just took what you said completely out of context or you were joking around I apologize.
Dan
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Hi Dan
Even when it was not your intention to make a warn. This is what you said to a smoker. (Even on a face to face conversation, saying this to a person who stills smokes; honestly, it does sounds as a warn.):
--- Quote from: DanTheMan on July 06, 2012, 09:24:12 PM --- Watching my grandfather die with emphysema, hooked up to an oxygen tank should have made me quit sooner than I did. He was 76 and yes that is average.....but dying because you cant breathe for your last year is not an easy way to go.
--- End quote ---
Also even if it was not your intention to say that it's all up to the smokers will power to be able to stop smoking, what you said sounds as if it's up to the smokers to stop smoking:
--- Quote from: DanTheMan on July 06, 2012, 09:24:12 PM --- I pray that all my BT friends can work on their various addictions (including my own).
--- End quote ---
When saying:
''I do not appreciate being painted as someone who is prophet, standing in God's place, and wishing harm or type of death to anyone.''
1. Since a peace of your post sounded a lot as a warn. I understand that the supposition regarding a possible death caused by other thing (like get run over by a mack truck) and not by the harmfull consecuence of the addiction would be a false ''prophecy'' (warn).
2.Since a peace of your post does sounds as if you said that it's up to the smokers will power to stop smoking. I understand that is the why of the reminding of ''not my will but Thy will'' be done.
3. Nobody have said anything about you ''wishing'' harm or type of death to anyone. What you said just sounded as 'warn' of a harmfull death. That's all.
The english language is not my first language and I know that I am nobody to try to clarify the way you express your thoughts and intentions behind them. You know, sometimes it's easily get misunderstood on this way of online communication where we are not able to show facial expressions, voice tone, etc. But we must keep trying on expresing our selves as clear as posible.
I also think that fb is a place with a high degree to get misunderstood. You did well to gave up on it. I did the same a few years ago and gained a lot of time to do more things, while still keeping in contact trough old fashion emails with the ones I cared to keep in contact the most.
acomplishedartis:
Gina. I thing you have the right attitude regarding your dealing with that random habit.
(not my will but Thy will)
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