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Gina:
--- Quote from: whyisthatso on May 29, 2012, 01:34:55 PM ---The Father is above all that exist. He is the Creator of all that exist. As such, the Father cannot be a part of His creation, not in the literal sense that He can coexist with His creation. If this were not so, then creation would cease to exist as such, and there would be no "God" of creation. The Father willed that the creation (creature), know Him. This is why He gave us His Son. The Son was "begotten" (came forth) of the Father. This is how the Father can communicate and interact with His creation. The Son is the express image and likeness of the Father, and in Him ( the Son), dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. " No man has seen the Father at any time, and none has heard His voice " But, the Son says " .....if you have seen Me, you have seen the Father". Also that " ...the Father and I are one ". The Son is the "Word" (logos - revelatory thought) of the Father. Just as the Father created all things by (through) the Son, we can only know the Fathers will by (through) the Son. The Son is the "Spirit" (Holy Spirit) of God the Father. It is this "power" (authority) that the Father exercises to govern His creation. If any would like chapters and verses of Scripture to substantiate these things, we can examine them together. Ray was just beginning to understand the "relationship" when he passed on.
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--- Quote ---Can you explain your view on (Colossians 2:9)
Thank you for your time. the Lord bless you,
Markus
Dear Markus:
First, there is no such thing as a "Godhead." It is "Divine" or "Divinity" or "Deity,"
and it means "that which pertains to God." God the Father lived and spoke and worked
in His Son Jesus. In his body, Jesus represented God the Father. Hence, he told Philip
that when he saw Christ he also saw His Father (John 14:8-11). "I and My Father
are ONE" (John 10:30).
God be with you,
Ray
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(Emphasis mine.)
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3261.msg24211.html#msg24211
Kat:
Hi whyisthatso,
I have not had the chance and would like to welcome you to the forum :)
I would like to expand on your comment;
--- Quote ---The Son is the "Spirit" (Holy Spirit) of God the Father.
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Here is an email that explains this to a greater degree.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,4995.0.html --------------------
THerefore SInce the "SPIRIT" (holy spirit) is THE LORD(the father), the father must be the spirit.
COMMENT: The "Spirit" is the possession of God the Father--it is "The Spirit OF God." However, God has given His Son Jesus Christ this SAME spirit. God has shared ALL with His Son: "ALL power in heaven and earth is given Me" (Matt. 28:18). Jesus takes of the Spirit His Father has given Him and gives it to US (John 16:15). The "Comforter" (the "parakletos) IS JESUS. "And if any man sin, we have an Advocate [Gk: 'parakletos] with the Father, JESUS CHRIST the righteous" (I John 2:1). Jesus Christ IS, the Lord of the Old Testament; the Lord of the New Testament, the Comforter (Parakletos), which is the promised Holy Spirit, which comes to us through JESUS CHRIST, and so "The Lord is that SPIRIT."
God be with you,
Ray
whyisthatso:
Thank you Kat for the welcome and the e-mail as well. I have been wondering for a long time when I would find a group of God's elect. So if I may I would like to say hello to all. My name is David .
whyisthatso:
Gina, thank you for pointing that out. Of course the word "Godhead" is a translation of the greek word ( which is used only once in scripture ). And is to be understood to pertain to that which is of God ( Father ) in a very special way. And refers to the very nature of the Father as opposed to just His attributes. There are many instances in the translation of the Scriptures where a better choice of words could have been used. But I have come to see after studying the Scriptures most of my life, that many times its not really about the words, per say, but about understanding. A little girl in China who has no understanding of the word "water" (english), surely KNOWS what water is. This is not to say that words are not important, but that words are thoughts realized. "....the Father is greater than I " (Jesus).
in love, David
Revilonivek:
I think what Ray means by his two statements,
"I Believe that the Holy Scriptures are God's Authorized Biography, and
I Believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is God's Authorized Autobiography
That's it. It's all in there. It'll come to you. Just meditate on it a few years!"
In the Love of God,
L. Ray Smith http://bible-truths.com/Creed.htm ~
at least for me, is that the first statement says the bible is God's autobiography on the domino effect God started on man and we see it's progress from Genesis to the the future, the second statement is God's result God wants to see in man!
hope it makes sense?
Denise
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