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lauriellen:
I know it is just a movie loosely based on a true story, but i was awake most of the night thinking about how the writers 'hit the nail on the head' so-to-speak concerning some of the BIG issues of life that i and many struggle with. The movie was 'Hatfields & McCoys' on the history channel,and was a true story of a fued that ripped two families and their communities apart. The 'head' of the McCoy family seemed so 'religious', always so sure God was on his families side and would protect them and bring the Hatfield family to justice. The head of the Hatfield family didn't seem to put much faith on God, and seemed to rely on his family & guns to get his own form of justice. After many of the family members on both sides had been killed, the McCoys were sitting on the front porch and Mr. McCoy was commenting on how he had prayed about the outcome when his wife made a very interesting comment....she said "Don't you ever get tired of praying? I can't see that it's done you much good.".....that just really struck me that the writers captured a question we all must have asked ourselves at some time or another?...when we/i have felt like i have done everything i could do to obey and please God, and still everything seems to work against us/me?
Later after another terrible battle in which 2 more of the McCoy children were killed, their house and belongings burned and his wife terribly injured, Mr. McCoy lost his faith and cursed God.....he said "no just God would allow that to happen." (isn't that THE question on most people's mind after some terrible disaster or tragedy or untimely death occurs?) In the movie, he became a drunkard who eventually accidentally burned himself up in  his cabin......i couldn't help but symphathize with Mr. McCoy, because i too struggle with this issue of good verses evil and have spent many hours wrestling with the same tormenting thoughts.....it is just SO hard to understand how some things can happen, such evil, horrible unthinkable things, yet we are to recieve them as from the hand of God, still trusting, faithful and even to rejoice in the suffering?...Some days i do have a peace about it, some days not-so-much. I just thought it was interesting that "hollywood" at times can produce some thought provoking films.
Ironically, the film ended with Mr. Hatfield (who seemingly had no faith) being baptised....lol. Go figure.

Samson:
Hey Laurie,

Pam and I watched the Hatfields & the Mc'Coys, it was pretty good, except having Feuds between different Families or Clans, We have feuds inside Families. Man dominates Man to His own injury.

We enjoyed it ! Samson.

Kat:

Hi Laurie,

Well it's interesting what can be learned about human nature from watching a movie. But this world does not understand is what God is doing here in this age. People tend to look at evil as a purely bad thing with absolutely nothing to gain from it whatsoever. Well why is there so much evil in this world and we know that God is the ultimate cause of it? Did the Hatfields and Mc'Coys learn anything from there feud? I think they did or at least could be taught that all the hate/evil and revenge/evil that they held against one another was wrong and in the end only brought misery to them all.

In this world all people will get their share of an "evil experience," so they will clearly know what it is and in the next age they will be able to learn from their own experiences the difference from evil and good.

If I want to teach my little (1 1/2 yr old) granddaughter not to touch a hot oven, I have to give her the idea of what hot is. So I put her hand to a pretty warm oven and say hot and as she continues to experience hot things, like hot water, she learns what it is to be hot. I don't think you could ever fully explain something like that without shows someone what it is.

That is the same thing with evil, we all know what it is from experiencing it. I will grant you that anybody that has experienced something evil is not likely to forget about it. So that is what I think all this evil is about. You might think well God is getting carried away, because there is so much evil... no, He knows exactly how much there needs to be.

mercy, peace and love
Kat

Cypress:
I saw the commercials for it, but missed it. Hope you are well! :)

GaryK:
I watched the 3 episodes.   I don’t watch ‘reality’ shows, well, I don’t watch much TV at all, so it was indeed refreshing to see something of interest.    Interestingly enough of all the things that caught my attention, and there were many as to how the film related to the original/actual issues of the feud (the pig court case being one), the loss of McCoy’s faith was a heart-breaking scene.



--- Quote ---”a question we all must have asked ourselves at some time or another?...when we/i have felt like i have done everything i could do to obey and please God, and still everything seems to work against us/me?”
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--- Quote ---“ because i too struggle with this issue of good verses evil and have spent many hours wrestling with the same tormenting thoughts.....it is just SO hard to understand how some things can happen, such evil, horrible unthinkable things, yet we are to recieve them as from the hand of God, still trusting, faithful and even to rejoice in the suffering?...Some days i do have a peace about it, some days not-so-much.”
--- End quote ---

You’re not asking for advice and that’s a good thing because I don’t have any to give.    I struggle with this as well Lauriellen so don’t you feel the least bit alone.     I’ve struggled with it for about 5 years now and the posts I’ve stupidly enough made here at BT over the last 5 years prove it.  I’m not really sure anymore why I still hang around BT and the like-minders for having pretty much given up on the hope of understanding exactly where and when this hand of ‘mercy’ and ‘faith’ is supposed to show.   In true fact, desperate thoughts on that very matter early this morning most probably long prior to anyone else wiping the sleep out of their eyes.   There was a time, prior to BT, when I thought I pretty much had God nailed and thought we had a pretty good working relationship the two of us.  And then events began where things treasured were lost, one after another.   It appears when he walks away and shakes the dust, he doesn’t kid around.   Course, I’m no saint in my own right over the whole matter so I can’t say as I blame him.  But whatever I did I must have been real good at it to cause some kind of lasting anger.   I guess, hell, I don’t know.   

Regardless, I’ve read Ray.  I’ve read them times over and for a long time now.    And the man makes sense.  More sense than any other words I've read anywhere.   It’s a good thing to get the mechanics (knowledge of the word) tweaked to the right torque, no doubt.   But, it’s an entire different matter to sync the gears of the mechanics with our emotional infrastructure  and know when, and how,  to shake loose of the fragile parts of that infrastructure that should no longer be a part of the gift ‘faith’ should be, or hopefully, become, if there's supposed to be any emotional base at all.   It’s hard.  At least for me it is.   But still, deep inside I believe if it happens it won’t be anything we’ll being causing to occur on our own, other than just standing in the right spot at the right time.   

That’s not advice, that’ just me agreeing with your train of thought.

But here I am stupidly rattling on again.   

gk

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