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mickiel:
I kind of like Col. 3:10, putting on the new self who is being renewed to a true knowledge according to the image of the one who created him. I willnot go into how I like putting consciousness where image is in my personal study, but I will say that knowledge being renewed does imply that we will go over some things that will already have been past knowledge or former understandings, which will then be restored to a state of soundness and perfection.
Renewed can certainly connotate things already in place, or a former state of understanding that is revived, resumed, and now we will " Go over it again"- but this time it will be fresh Holy Spirit teaching.
In vs. 11 this " Renewal" is going to be based on Christ being All and In All". Interesting, being taught new knowledge and having old knowledge corrected and perfected- a renewal that has no distinction ( no limits in superiority is what I think that means, and the implications of that are mind boggling), I think it very possible that Christ himself will once again teach us in the Kingdom. Oh how tempted I am to go over some things on consciousness there, but I resist.
Spiritual knowledge willnot be separated or segregated. I even believe that certain people God will choose may preempt this kind of knowledge renewal before we enter into his Kingdom. But that's another differing thing.
John from Kentucky:
::)
We are in need of an emoticon shooting himself in the head to illustrate my thoughts about this thread.
I miss Ray's clarity of scriptural expression. I knew the wolves would appear after his death, but I didn't think this soon.
Behold the days come, says the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD. Amos 8:11
servias:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on June 11, 2012, 09:36:47 PM --- ::)
We are in need of an emoticon shooting himself in the head to illustrate my thoughts about this thread.
I miss Ray's clarity of scriptural expression. I knew the wolves would appear after his death, but I didn't think this soon.
Behold the days come, says the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD. Amos 8:11
--- End quote ---
Thanks JFK. My thoughts exactly...it seems everyone wants to teach or has extra god given insights all of sudden....too soon.
mickiel:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on June 11, 2012, 09:36:47 PM --- ::)
We are in need of an emoticon shooting himself in the head to illustrate my thoughts about this thread.
I miss Ray's clarity of scriptural expression. I knew the wolves would appear after his death, but I didn't think this soon.
Behold the days come, says the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD. Amos 8:11
--- End quote ---
I am saddened by the death of Ray, he seemed to have been a great teacher, his mind blessed with marvelous truth. It is strange to me that my path and search for truth has led me here this last week , even though some seem unwilling to hang the welcome sign. I am also saddened by being referred to as a wolf; but I understand that. But in my heart I am encouraged by the truth that although certain people of God may not welcome you or want you around , that God has shown me that he will welcome us wolves into his Kingdom. And I like that about God. Although I do not know him, God seems to be a welcoming Spirit to those who have messed up minds and have not been blessed to blend in with his people. Its the only chance that I have. Yet if Christ is your only chance, I think even the wolves will be alright.
The path to the truth is often frustrating, filled with sad surprises. I recall rejecting the free will doctrine some 20 years ago, and the Church's I was involved in mistreated me because of that, they called me a wolf as well. I soon after rejected the trinity doctrine , and I began to think myself crazy. And perhaps I am. But no matter to me, I will stay on this path no matter how many things I must reject, or how many people reject me.
Peace.
servias:
mickiel,
Its not that we don't want to welcome you its just that we are not here to teach...but rather to help understand what has already been taught by Ray. We all have different views on certain things and its okay to discuss it a bit with openness but any NEW TRUTHS you bring to us are going to get negative feedback...Especially so soon. Hope you understand how we are and you are more than welcome to continue to ask questions. And if you have only been here for a week you got lots of reading to do. I've been around for a couple years and still feel I need to re-read 10 times as much. :)
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