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Interesting: why we have a short span of life
Kat:
I believe the Bible account of only 8 people entering the ark and coming out of that great flood alive. But I do not believe that it was a worldwide event, there are just too many things that Ray brought out that indicate that it was not. Therefore the giants could certainly survived.
But as far as it being referred to as the whole world, it occurred to me that history books refer to ancient rulers such as Alexander the Great to have conquered the whole world. Yet we know that he did not even know there was the American continents, much less conquer this part of the world. What I'm getting at is that it was the 'whole' known world to them.
Another problem I have with the flood being worldwide is how would all the animals that are indigenous to certain parts of the world have gotten to the ark? I mean seriously what about the kangaroos in Australia and all those unique and rare animals in Madagascar. And what about America? We have many animals not found in Europe, such as the American bison (Buffalo), cougar, porcupine, coyote, raccoon, badger, etc. Now how did they make their way to the ark? The flood did not resulted in mass extinction of these animal, because they are still here.
Anyway there are just way too many problems with the flood being worldwide and Ray gave a very plausible explanation of how it was not. So anyway that's just some thoughts.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
Ireland:
Interesting topic and alot to learn and see in this thread. I will add a few thoughts in regards to the scriptures dealing with these Sons of God. I believe they are the ones spoken of in Job 38:7, Psa 45:7 and Psa 89:6.
These Sons of God in Genesis were supposed to look after these people on the earth and deal righteously with them. These were heavenly beings that gave up their first estate and sinned by marrying these daughters of men. Jude 1:6 seems to be the verse in referrence to these Sons of God and their punishment for disobeying God. I look forward to the further exploration of this topic. Thanks
Gina:
Yes, Kat. The flood wasn't global. You make excellent points. The church should have never taught the flood was global and discounted that there were cavemen (which they say goes against scripture) and a lot of nonsense could have been avoided. But alas that's not the way God would design it. That's why I think it's so amazing these times we live in with our technology.
Hi Ireland: The sons of God were not:
while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy? Job 38:7
You love righteousness, and hate wickedness: therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness above your fellows. Psalm 45:7
For who in the skies above can compare with the LORD? Who is like the LORD among the heavenly beings? (Psalm 89:6)
Here's what Ray has said regarding the matter:
The angels CANNOT MARRY (they have no 'marriage apparatus' if you know what I mean). Yet we are told in Gen. 6:2, that "they took them WIVES of all which they chose." To have a "wife" one must be "MARRIED." The sons of God and the daughters of men are BOTH HUMAN.
( http://bible-truths.com/email12.htm )
"...they have no marriage apparatus if you know what I mean." Ha! See now that makes a lot of sense.
Gina
Gina:
Precisely Hudson -- Andre the Giant! He's just one example of a giant that we know of.
Kat:
Hi Ireland,
Gen 6:2 the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were good. And they took wives for themselves from all whom they chose.
Among the people of that time there were those that were known to serve God/obey God, such as the family of Seth.
Gen 4:26 And there was also a son born to Seth, and he called his name Enos. Then men began to call upon the name of Jehovah.
Now it is not hard to think that those people that showed special reverence to God were considered/called "sons of God." There are Scripture that indicate that.
Psa 82:6 I have said, You are gods; and all of you sons of the Most High.
v. 7 But you shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
Now those others that were referred to as the "daughters of men" may have been the rest that were not so godly/righteous. One family that comes to mind is Cain's. Would the Scripture that says "Cain went away from the presence of the Lord" suggest that he did not serve/obey God after he was cursed (well not before that as well)?
Gen 4:16 Then Cain went away from the presence of the LORD and settled in the land of Nod, east of Eden.
I just think there are plausible explanations for this, rather than the notion that literal ethereal angels were marrying physical women. Even all the different forms of flesh (fish, birds, animals and human), these cannot mix and reproduce, now alone things from different realms of being.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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