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Interesting: why we have a short span of life
Kat:
Hi Joel,
The flood was in 2285BC, according to a study Ray did, link to Bible study http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,10047.0.html So that puts the flood around 4297 yrs ago. The continental drift is continuing even now at about as fast as fingernails grow. So even in thousands of yrs it is not enough to have any impact to how the animals traveled across vast areas of land and water to reach the ark. There were animals spread over every land mass and many species were isolated in certain areas. I'm not suggesting that God could not have worked miracles to have made that happen, but to save every species... resent estimates have it at about 8.7 million, many requiring special habitat to survive.
Even if God just put one cat type animal to represent them all (well over 100 wild and domesticated breeds) and then when that one was released it was to go out and regenerate all the differing breeds and they were to spread out into their known habitate of today. There is no scientific evidence of such a thing happening.
This idea goes against all the scientific research of animal life that we have. Sure God could have miraculously done it all, but where is the evidence that should be still present if such a thing happened?
Anyway just trying to look at from a realistic viewpoint.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
doug:
Hey Kat -
I've been following your and Joel's discussion, and these "earth beginnings" ideas interest me too.
As I had once stated in my intro, I needed to do a complete paradigm shift in many of my interpretations and especially with the "young earth" theory and also a "world-wide" flood. I had believed that in the days of Peleg that the "earth" was divided.
A catastrophic event indeed! Now, I believe that it was the nations divided, with languages, customs etc.
Here is a gif of what I believe now..... only at a "fingernails" growth pace!
I am still wondering how the Ice Age and the raising and lowering of the sea levels fit into the picture. ???
doug
indianabob:
Hi Doug,
Just wondering whether the option of Subsidence would substitute for plate tectonics. Only because subsidence would leave the land masses in place above the molten lava rather than having the land masses travel thousands of miles. It would cause a lot less trauma for the planet if the molten lava oozed away from under the ocean beds rather than having the whole plate, several miles thick with all its underpinnings, moving however slowly just to satisfy the supposed need for the animals to have been able to migrate on foot and not on the ships of humans transporting them for commerce.
Bob
doug:
Hey Bob!
I only know of continental drift as the seismic movements of the earth's plate/crust that as it cools over time it cracks, forming the plates and drifting above the earth's molten core, or lava as you suggest. I didn't know that there was any other theory.
This goes very slowly of course... about 3 centimeters per year is what the scientists tell us. Actually we are just floating around on the earth's upper mantle. Kinda like a concrete worker kneeling on a board over newly poured wet concrete. The earth's core being so hot as it is will cause this mantle convection to pull along the oceanic and Continental plates for a long while to come! You would think that after billions of years of cooling that the earth would have completely cooled off by now!
doug
indianabob:
Doug,
Appreciate your additional information.
The question that keeps bothering me is the millions of years that we seem to be assuming for change of any great magnitude. What about catastrophic changes?
Imagine how God assembled the earth in the first instance with all the requirements of lava for the mantle and a magnetic field for electric power and of balance of systems to keep it rotating and orbiting and retaining a moon and holding a certain amount of air of a certain special chemical mix in order to sustain life as we know it.
With all that was needed for the original requirements why is it absolutely necessary that it be millions of years old? Do we think that God had to assemble the earth one step at a time? I don't.
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