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New article: "Solving The Enigma Of God" just posted.
Kat:
Hi John,
--- Quote ---One question I have is why God allowed this topic to be brought up by Ray, and then just hang there without a definitive resolution?
--- End quote ---
Because God did bring this questions out through His servant, Ray, as we all listened to Ray and these things that Ray brought up about this enigma, very obviously, stirred up a lot of thought and questions on this. But God does not depend on any man and He can/will easily bring the answers to this question to any of us whenever He chooses.
I think we are missing the obvious on this inexplicable relationship that the Father and the Son have in oneness... that is the enigma! It's not that the Father and Son are the same being, it's that the connection that they do have is near (if not totally) impossible for a human mind to comprehend.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
John9362:
This paper was easy and simple to understand. Ray wrote all his papers that way :)
As I've said many times before, one must read the BT website many times !! >:(
I will pray for all the moderators, for God to bless you with patience and strength. ;)
I've been a member here for over 6 years ...........believe me ALL the good stuff is on the BT website.........the more one reads it the more blessed one gets !! ;D ;D ;D
Gina:
The relationship between the Father and Son IS completely impossible for a human mind to comprehend.
James 1:5 If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him.
Thanks James!
Gina:
1 Cor 11:19 For there must also be factions [Gk. 'heresies'] among you, that those who are approved may be recognized among you.
What's the answer:
2 Timothy 2:15 Study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman that needs not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Thanks, Paul and Timothy. Err ... I mean the Comforter. :)
John 10:24-26 Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long do you make us to doubt? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly.
Jesus answered them, I told you, and you believed NOT: the works that I do in my Father's name, THEY [the works] bear witness of me.
But you believe not, because you are NOT of My sheep, as I said unto you.
[I guess they were somebody's sheep, but NOT his. It's like this: Sssssllllaaappp~! One down, and however many ... or few ;) to go~]
John 10:27-30: My sheep hear MY voice [ they don't hear (believe) anyone else's voice, only MY voice], and I know them, and they follow ME [they don't follow anyone else, only ME]: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of MY hand. My Father, who gave them to Me [He didn't give them to anyone else, but Me], is GREATER than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of My Father's hand. I and my Father are one.
"I and my Father are one and My Father ... is GREATER than all.
Wow, that is so cool. I love that.
John from Kentucky:
Marques,
You said I referenced Ray's emails but never posted them. Actually, I posted two of them above. Here is a third one.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,12934.0.html
Take a look at the third paragraph from the bottom. Ray says, and I quote, "Nor does my paper on the trinity or the origin of Jesus explain and harmonize all of these Scriptures. I am seeing glimpses of a greater understanding of the relationship between the Father and the Son, but my understanding is yet far from complete."
I understood from Ray's statement that his prior understanding on this nature of God matter was incomplete and more information would be forthcoming.
Also, I do not believe that the Father and Jesus are the same being. Nor do I think Ray thought so either. I don't think the word being is even in the scriptures much less using that term in reference to the Father.
I said I do not believe Jesus is separate from the Father. Because, if they are separate then you have two separate Gods. The scriptures teach there is One God.
The scriptures use the analogy of One Body. A head and a right arm are different, but they are part of One Body. They are not separate.
Please do not assume I am saying something which I did not say. Just ask me if you are unsure.
John
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