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What God can do
lilitalienboi16:
I am absolutely stupified.. I'm in absolute AWE.
WOW! WOW WOW WOW!
God... You are.. beyond words, beyond description and I feel SO TINY compared to your AWESOMENESS! :< True story!
Revilonivek:
--- Quote from: indianabob on June 27, 2012, 10:28:17 AM ---Speaking of God and Chemical reactions:
Our sun, the source of heat and electrons/photons that are morphed into fruit and vegetables by photo-synthesis is burning out; slowly but surely unless it is re-generated. How big would it have been 100 million years ago when scientist say life on the earth began?
The orbit of the earth is one year or 360 days. Yes it has slowed down to 365 over time, but....
The orbit of the Moon around the earth is 30 days. Was that an accident or is a month supposed to be a time indicator?
Humans have eight fingers + two thumbs and that adds up to the decimal system of counting.
For shoe less rural folks there are an additional ten toes so they can count to twenty. Accident? Or did God want us to learn the decimal system of counting?
The lower animals often drop/birth their offspring and have them walking the same day or soon after.
Humans have to take months and years of intensive, loving care to prepare their offspring for independent life on this planet. Accident or wise plan?
Humans, who are born self important and thinking they know better than their creator what is good; are allowed to age and wrinkle and stiffen up over their lifetime to teach them that it is appointed unto every man once to die (physically & spiritually) so that they hopefully plan for their demise. Accident or wise plan?
Every eventuality and every possibility is accounted for. Even our human inventions were gifted to certain of us over time, when our Creator decided that the time was right. Men knew that they could fly in the air millennia ago, but they didn't develop the means until the time was right. God is sovereign.
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Hi Indianabob,
Sorry it took me a while to respond. I wanted to wait till I got some time to write... I was simply saying that we dont' exactly have free will, because chemical reactions controls every move we make... we can't control chemical reactions. Right now We just have unstable chemical reactions. we will have stable chemical reactions one day. we just need the right ingredients to make it more stable. make sense?
About the animals, we all come from one source.. we are just variations of that same source. God gave us a part of himself, This is why we are intelligent beings :) It's no accident. :) Don't be surprised one day if animals decide to talk one day and take over the world like the Ape planet movie ;) all because, thanks to scientists, who gave them something that worked with their DNA that consequently gave them super intelligence. :) Nothing's impossible but quite unlikely though..
Planets in this solar system has orbitals that orbits around the sun just like protons and electrons orbits around an atom. They obey extremely well, it's an interesting fact that everything seems to run in circles. :) anyway... with atoms, we know that there are Protons or Electrons that don't always obey, they go off track- they're called free radicals. They're the bad ones that cause damages. they bounce everywhere and not being able to hold on to something.. Even solar systems experience them at one point with one or two planets. Our solar system did long time ago by crashing into other planets and possibly one day again in the future. scientists think that is what happened to our moon.. when it crashed into earth at a time before earth had the ability to support life. There's alot of examples of unstable behavior in the universe where they don't' always obey. They do obey, but not always. But when they do obey, there's peace among all the planets or atoms, or people, or whatever level you want to use. wherever everyone obeys, there's harmony.
Same thing applies to us... right now we are just the unstable ones, we will eventually obey.
Did you know the universe that you know contains an infinite number of planetary systems, stars, planets and galaxies and outside of the universe you know there are infinite numbers of other universes with planetary systems, stars, planets and galaxies that also hold life. I am sure there are other worlds out there somewhere that holds life or is about to birth a new world with ability to hold life. I mean, God created this world and everything in it, heavens of heavens of heavens... a huge matrix.. Look at us. we are here, after finding so many failed planets in this solar system and nearby ones. There are too many planets out there in this galaxy and we haven't found them all yet. There are also other galaxies out there. God is constantly creating everything and why do you think God stops with us? Maybe he wants many worlds, more children, and so on?
We just live in the one solar system that happened to have a planet capable of supporting life. Don't be too surprised if one of these days during your lifetime, an alien decides to visit you LOL... just kidding.. Just saying.. don't throw out the possibility that there are other worlds out there somewhere.
this Universe is way too big for just one world... and God's made universes.... Imagine his power and creative ability to create.. Everything that happened here on earth... of course God gave it the right conditions so we can thrive, so other animals can thrive, and so that the earth can thrive for a long time, yes. It's not an accdent but I don't think we're the only world out in the entire universe or universes for that matter.
Gina:
--- Quote ---Don't be too surprised if one of these days during your lifetime, an alien decides to visit you LOL... just kidding.. Just saying.. don't throw out the possibility . . ..
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I love it. I certainly won't throw out the possibility.
Exodus 22:21 "Do not mistreat an alien or oppress him, for you were aliens in Egypt.
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Leviticus 19:34 The alien living with you must be treated as one of your native-born. Love him as yourself, for you were aliens in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.
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Deuteronomy 10:18 He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the alien, giving him food and clothing.
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Psalm 10:18 defending the fatherless and the oppressed, in order that man, who is of the earth, may terrify no more.
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Psalm 68:5 A father to the fatherless, a defender of widows, is God in his holy dwelling.
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Psalm 147:6 The LORD sustains the humble but casts the wicked to the ground.
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Proverbs 15:25 The LORD tears down the proud man's house but he keeps the widow's boundaries intact.
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James 1:27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
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Denise you're such a doll. Love reading your posts. :)
doug:
--- Quote from: Revilonivek on June 29, 2012, 10:53:00 AM ---
Did you know the universe that you know contains an infinite number of planetary systems, stars, planets and galaxies and outside of the universe you know there are infinite numbers of other universes with planetary systems, stars, planets and galaxies that also hold life. I am sure there are other worlds out there somewhere that holds life or is about to birth a new world with ability to hold life.
this Universe is way too big for just one world... and God's made universes.... Imagine his power and creative ability to create.. Everything that happened here on earth... of course God gave it the right conditions so we can thrive, so other animals can thrive, and so that the earth can thrive for a long time, yes. It's not an accdent but I don't think we're the only world out in the entire universe or universes for that matter.
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Denise, Hey!
I, like a lot of folks on this site (as was Ray) are interested in the beyond.... the out there....
I have enjoyed reading your "take" on this matter... concept.... idea.... whatever you want to call it! :)
I have also wondered if you have ever thought about this concept... as I imagine you have... because you are an imaginative thinker :) and would like to hear your input! :)
I am showing four verses where I believe God has shown us that there are certainly "principalities & powers" on the earth (the physical powers that rule over nations), in the spiritual world (angels and demons), and in the heavenlies (those "beings" in His creation that we haven't seen as yet). That's what I would like to talk about..... those beings "out there", in the heavenlies.
What I have imagined is that since God has all kinds of attributes (some in the names He calls Himself), beings in the heavenlies really don't know what God's attributes are. I mean, it's one thing to say what you are, but unless one demonstrates who and what you are, then they don't have a clue. Take for instance, love. God is love. Well, o.k. then what is it? I would assume that those beings have never seen it, so then, they don't really know what love is. Or again for example, good and evil. What is it? It has to be demonstrated to know exactly what it is. That is what He is showing in us humans,(thru Christ) and I believe, unbeknownst to us, He is also demonstrating it to the principalities and powers "out there" in the heavenlies! How else would they know if God wasn't showing them also? These are just my thots of course! :-\
Ephesians 3:10 makes it clear that indeed there are other beings in heavenly places and that God is showing them His wisdom:
1.Ephesians 3:10
to the intent that now the manifold wisdom of God might be made known by the church to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places,
2. Ephesians 6:12
For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
3.Colossians 1:16
For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
4.Colossians 2:15
Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.
I am just curious Denise as to your thots as to what I have commented and if you have ever wondered the same thing.
as a side note.... have you ever read the old 1980's book THIS PRESENT DARKNESS by Frank Peretti ? That book influenced me somewhat on the evil darkness around us. It was just a fictional novel but quite captivating! ;)
doug
Revilonivek:
--- Quote from: doug on June 29, 2012, 03:40:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: Revilonivek on June 29, 2012, 10:53:00 AM ---
Did you know the universe that you know contains an infinite number of planetary systems, stars, planets and galaxies and outside of the universe you know there are infinite numbers of other universes with planetary systems, stars, planets and galaxies that also hold life. I am sure there are other worlds out there somewhere that holds life or is about to birth a new world with ability to hold life.
this Universe is way too big for just one world... and God's made universes.... Imagine his power and creative ability to create.. Everything that happened here on earth... of course God gave it the right conditions so we can thrive, so other animals can thrive, and so that the earth can thrive for a long time, yes. It's not an accdent but I don't think we're the only world out in the entire universe or universes for that matter.
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Denise, Hey!
I, like a lot of folks on this site (as was Ray) are interested in the beyond.... the out there....
I have enjoyed reading your "take" on this matter... concept.... idea.... whatever you want to call it! :)
I have also wondered if you have ever thought about this concept... as I imagine you have... because you are an imaginative thinker :) and would like to hear your input! :)
I am showing four verses where I believe God has shown us that there are certainly "principalities & powers" on the earth (the physical powers that rule over nations), in the spiritual world (angels and demons), and in the heavenlies (those "beings" in His creation that we haven't seen as yet). That's what I would like to talk about..... those beings "out there", in the heavenlies.
What I have imagined is that since God has all kinds of attributes (some in the names He calls Himself), beings in the heavenlies really don't know what God's attributes are. I mean, it's one thing to say what you are, but unless one demonstrates who and what you are, then they don't have a clue. Take for instance, love. God is love. Well, o.k. then what is it? I would assume that those beings have never seen it, so then, they don't really know what love is. Or again for example, good and evil. What is it? It has to be demonstrated to know exactly what it is. That is what He is showing in us humans,(thru Christ) and I believe, unbeknownst to us, He is also demonstrating it to the principalities and powers "out there" in the heavenlies! How else would they know if God wasn't showing them also? These are just my thots of course! :-\
Ephesians 3:10 makes it clear that indeed there are other beings in heavenly places and that God is showing them His wisdom:
1.Ephesians 3:10
to the intent that now the manifold wisdom of God might be made known by the church to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places,
2. Ephesians 6:12
For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
3.Colossians 1:16
For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
4.Colossians 2:15
Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.
I am just curious Denise as to your thots as to what I have commented and if you have ever wondered the same thing.
as a side note.... have you ever read the old 1980's book THIS PRESENT DARKNESS by Frank Peretti ? That book influenced me somewhat on the evil darkness around us. It was just a fictional novel but quite captivating! ;)
doug
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Doug-
I definitely need to read that book and get back to you. It looks interesting! I don't think we would ever understand what God is, but I would be safe to say it is something perfect that we experience.. All that is Good that we experience... but I know God is much more than that...So far all we understand is his spiritual footsteps, not Him as a whole. It's hard to understand God until you have all the knowledge that there is to understand God. The scriptures you provided confirms something we all struggle with already whether invisible or visible.rather than about other worlds.
I wouldn't be surprised since there are examples in the bible, such,as Satan led David to number Israel, but God said he let it happen as a way to punish Israel, then there's Job where satan tortured but God let it happen to teach Job and to prove to Satan wrong.I know God works with mother nature and environment to influence people.
I think these scriptures are simply saying that we cannot look up to governments, church organizations, or other institutions of any types for salvation. Many people are dependent on these, these are powers, whether it is invisible to them, or visible to them. I noticed the wording heavenly places but in some translations, they say high places? as to say that there are powers that you cannot control that influences your daily lives maybe? I would say We live in a world that is invested with spiritual significance. a principality, is something over which human beings have little or no control, whether, they are visible or invisible. visible or invisible as in saying, known or unknown powers to you.. make sense?
Jesus said he will reign until all of these are subdued including death.
God is claiming he created them all...Good and evil dominions, all kinds of prinicipiality for a purpose. That's scary to me, especially for those who endure through these evil dominions. Tablian, insquitions, salem, and so on. We have heard many stories of those in high places where they abused their power on the people all the time.. That's hard indeed. because people certainly don't deserve to endure through those periods.
The bible seems to be focused and centered on Earth only. I would definitely love to get a bible on the rest of the universe, or rather what God says about universes out there... All in due time, right? scriptures already say there are dominons in heavens and earth.. I wouldn't be surprised if there are more planets out there teeming with life, as well.
1 Corinthians 2:6
King James Version (KJV)
6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
1 Corinthians 15:24-26
King James Version (KJV)
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
Notice the wording.... Jesus must reign on earth UNTIL he puts all enemies under his feet. interesting how it was worded..notice the wording, delivered up the kingdom to God, as to say Jesus will not deliver until the kingdom is complete... The kingdom of God is still at work on earth... It will be delivered to the father when all things are subdued under God. I would say Earth has a long way to go... LOL
Ephesians 1:20-21
King James Version (KJV)
20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
Ephesians 3:9-10
King James Version (KJV)
9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,
He admits the Truth was hidden from them for ages on PURPOSE but there will be a time where He reveals the TRUTH to them..I can't wait for that!!!! The Earth needs to be liberated so bad!! it's been too long! :)
Ephesians 6:12
King James Version (KJV)
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places
Colossians 1:16
King James Version (KJV)
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
This scripture seems to show that there are dominions created in the heavens and earth... so I wouldn't be surprised that Earth's not the only planet with life.. :)
Colossians 2:15
King James Version (KJV)15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
That would be great.... no more abusive powers that controls the people with fear...
Denise
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