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What God can do
Shawn Fainn:
Someone say aliens? I thought i smelled a bug hunt.. Let's get it on!
Revilonivek:
Hudson, Rofl!!!!! I don't mean ufoey aliens but in scientific terms. people from othrr countries are labeled aliens as well.
I'm just saying if bible is saying there are 'life forms' in thr form of angels and super natural beings or spirits. They're defined as advanced beings not affected by physical laws. I wouldn't put past it if there is other worlds out there if supernatural beings other than us already exist? See what I am trying tto say?
There's universes out there. Its awfully big for just one earth? Thoughts?
Gina:
haha Oh Denise you're such a cutie pie! Muaaaahhh!!! :-* :-* :-*
About scientists in the future destroying the gene that causes death--what a lovely thought.
No one wants to die. I don't. The thought of dying terrifies me. It absolutely terrifies me. I remember when I first learned what death was. I was seven. I couldn't figure it out. Why would God send people to outter darkness? Somewhere, all alone, afraid, no one could reach them or help them. That's the way I processed the state of being dead. (No one could explain it to me in a way that I could understand until Ray came along. Ref. An Encouraging Word About Death.) I couldn't stop thinking about death. I got so depressed about it I had a nervous breakdown when I was eight years old. My mind couldn't handle it.
Ecclesiastes 3:2 a time to be born and a time to die
See, what I wonder about is how God will cause dead people to be resurrected!
There's a lot that scientists are discovering, especially with stem cell research (would love to be on the staff at Stanford U in their stem cell research dept!) Scientists are making new body parts grow in labs! It's freaking unreal but it's real. Will they discover a way to raise dead people back to life?
< Ezekiel 37 >>
English Standard Version
The Valley of Dry Bones
1 The hand of the Lord was upon me, and he brought me out in the Spirit of the Lord and set me down in the middle of the valley;a it was full of bones.
2 And he led me around among them, and behold, there were very many on the surface of the valley, and behold, they were very dry.
3 And he said to me, “Son of man, can these bones live?” And I answered, “O Lord God, you know.”
4 Then he said to me, “Prophesy over these bones, and say to them, O dry bones, hear the word of the Lord.
5 Thus says the Lord God to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live.
6 And I will lay sinews upon you, and will cause flesh to come upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and you shall live, and you shall know that I am the Lord.”
Ref. PHYSICAL or SPIRITUAL RESURRECTION BODIES FOR THE WICKED & NON-BELIEVERS? (http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,7474.0.html)
My boss was in the military and took part in the terrorist investigations. He was pretty high up there as far as military intelligence - not too long ago. He briefly mentioned after I asked him about it that the "intelligence" we civilians currently see is only the things our government WANTS us to see (he has no reason to lie -- he told me that with extreme caution -- he wasn't joking or bragging; he knows something but he's not telling anyone and I wasn't about to ask details because frankly -- what good would it do me). He said the U.S. military at this point in time is about 50 years beyond the knowledge that civilians currently are being exposed to.
It is hard to fathom just what is really going on that we don't know about.
But I seriously don't believe that there are UFOs or aliens or other life forms out there.
I personally believe what the military and governments know mostly is:
HOW TO CONTROL THE MASSES BY THE USE OF FEAR.
I'm dead serious. ;)
I really enjoy your posts. I understand totally how you're fascinated by those topics. I am too, I just don't think that there's any validity to there being any aliens out there with a higher intelligence on other planets or other universes.
Hebrews 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to do service for the sake of them that shall inherit salvation?
I'm most certain there are principalities and powers and dominions and any spirits associated with them are getting an education, just like the rest of us.
But you go ahead. :) ;) (But be careful.)
Revilonivek:
Gina,
Yeah, What you just said confirms what the scriptures say about principalities and powers that are known and unknown, whether they are good or bad, that we fight against everyday..
about other lifeforms on other planets- they probably don't exist or do exst, who knows but it's not essential to our spiritual development in this life time anyway. One question, Would you say angels, God, etc are other life forms than our own? Since they are aware and conscious of their own existance? what would you say they are? Maybe they are not from anywhere in the universe but from the spiritual realm maybe? It's hard to fathom something we haven't seen. I think once we see it and understand what it is, it will come easy..
I heard of this story... It's like the Indians, when they saw the ships, they didn't see any ships at all, their brain wouldn't register the image at all because it's something they haven't seen before, but one Indian, he knew something was wrong with the water, and kept studying it for days, eventually he finally "saw" the ships and alerted the others. It was quite an fascinating story really.
Maybe there are many things that goes on around us, but our brain wouldn't register at all.... That could explain why we couldn't see the unseen but they're here? it's interesting really...
I also hear that energy cannot be destroyed, only changed. We are all made of energy... Nothing's impossible I would say. :)
Maybe God is creating the universes so big, for when the time comes, we could explore or whatever or maybe it's just his own artwork that he wants to keep creating. I was simply curious to what reason he keeps creating is all.
Gina:
--- Quote from: Revilonivek on July 01, 2012, 12:35:32 PM ---Gina,
Yeah, What you just said confirms what the scriptures say about principalities and powers that are known and unknown, whether they are good or bad, that we fight against everyday..
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1 I, Paul, myself entreat you, by the meekness and gentleness of Christ—I who am humble when face to face with you, but bold toward you when I am away!—
2 I beg of you that when I am present I may not have to show boldness with such confidence as I count on showing against some who suspect us of walking according to the flesh.
3 For though we walk in the flesh, we are not waging war according to the flesh.
4 For the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh but have divine power to destroy strongholds. (He's talking about destroying doctrines of demons. Hello?)
5 We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ,
Get it? ;)
--- Quote ---about other lifeforms on other planets- they probably don't exist or do exst, who knows but it's not essential to our spiritual development in this life time anyway.
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I agree with you wholeheartedly. :)
--- Quote ---One question, Would you say angels, God, etc are other life forms than our own?
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Are we not a part of God, Denise? Let's read it, hon:
1 Cor. 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, OF whom are all things, and we in him; and the Lord Jesus Christ, BY whom are all things, and we by him.
Did God not make humanity? Then I imagine we're all part OF God -- we're just not LIKE God in many ways. Jesus said that His Kingdom was not of this world. He never said that He was not of this world -- (EDIT: John 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. Okay, yes, before anyone clobbers me - Jesus did say that; however, we know what he meant.) Of course he was part of this world. He came out of the womb of a woman -- a real live woman. Jesus simply said that His Kingdom is not of this world--meaning His WAYS are higher than our ways. His THOUGHTS are higher than ours. (I know you're familiar with that OT scriptures.)
I hope that makes sense, hon.
--- Quote ---Since they are aware and conscious of their own existance? what would you say they are? Maybe they are not from anywhere in the universe but from the spiritual realm maybe? It's hard to fathom something we haven't seen. I think once we see it and understand what it is, it will come easy..
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ummm... no comment. ;)
--- Quote ---I heard of this story... It's like the Indians, when they saw the ships, they didn't see any ships at all, their brain wouldn't register the image at all because it's something they haven't seen before, but one Indian, he knew something was wrong with the water, and kept studying it for days, eventually he finally "saw" the ships and alerted the others. It was quite an fascinating story really.
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I'll have to check that out. Send me a link by pm or something.
--- Quote ---Maybe there are many things that goes on around us, but our brain wouldn't register at all.... That could explain why we couldn't see the unseen but they're here? it's interesting really...
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--- Quote ---I also hear that energy cannot be destroyed, only changed. We are all made of energy... Nothing's impossible I would say. :)
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Yes, energy isn't destroyed. It simply changes FORM. You know -- the tree that dies, it decays and its parts break down to the smallest particles and its ashes return to the earth.
Water -- it can't be destroyed. It comes down as rain and fills the oceans and lakes, etc. Some of it is evaporated and goes back up to the clouds. We can't always see it being evaporated (unless you think of steam from boiling water). Water molecules expand out and then collect to form clouds.
--- Quote ---Maybe God is creating the universes so big, for when the time comes, we could explore or whatever or maybe it's just his own artwork that he wants to keep creating. I was simply curious to what reason he keeps creating is all.
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I wonder about that too. Sometimes I think God is kind of working with us like one of those mathematical equations where the key to solving the equation is hidden in the midst of a bunch of words, words, words and more words.
"If Johnny has 4 apples, and Susie has 10 apples, and Suzie gets in a car and drives up the street to see her cousin who has a dog and two cats, how many apples will Johnny have if he gives one of his apples to Susie?"
Well, anyway, enjoy this optical illusion:
This is what my brain looks like right now. Oh, you can't see it, but trust me it's there and that's exactly what it looks like right now. ha!
You're still a doll.
Denise, You ask good questions. I have to go clear my head......
Tah, tah
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