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Gods Promises
Ian 155:
Just a question all,
Are The promises of God In his word only for us once we have overcome the sin inherent in us ? are they be available as folk still trying to grasp his word, Or should we shut out of our being all we have been taught such as "I will provide ,I have plans for you good plans,is any one sick among you ,let the Elders pray and annoint you with oil etc - do these only apply after the man of perdition has been overcome ?
thanks
ian
Kat:
Hi ian,
Well we are striving to be overcomers now, but it will be a struggle for the rest of our lives. But the promises are for the believers and certainly all those who are trying to grasp this truth is of our fellowship.
But here is more concerning the promises.
http://bible-truths.com/rapture.htm ------------------
The Apostle Paul began teaching the promises of God from the very beginning of his ministry.
"Now Paul, rising and gesturing with his hand, said, Men, Israelites ... He rouses David for their king ... From this one’s seed, God, according to the PROMISE, led to Israel a Savior, Jesus" (Acts 13:1, 22, 23).
Is it even necessary that I state that this same promised seed is also OUR Savior as well as Israel’s?
"Then Paul, stretching out his hand, made his defense ... And now, in expectation of the PROMISE which came by God to our fathers, I stand being judged ..." (Acts 26:1, 6).
This promise had to do with Paul’s expectation of being raised from the dead and given an allotment in the Kingdom of God along with "ALL the Saints" (I Thes. 3:13).
"... being fully assured also, that, what He has PROMISED, He is able to do also ... Now it was not written because of him [Abraham] only, that it is reckoned to him, but because of US also, to whom it is about to be reckoned, who are believing on Him ..." (Rom. 4:20, 23, 24).
The "promises" were first to Abraham, whose seed was to bless the whole world, and whose children we (gentile believers) are.
And finally,
"Now if you [Galatian gentiles and you who are reading these words of life today] are Christ’s consequently you are OF Abraham’s seed, enjoyers of the allotment according to the PROMISE" (Gal. 3:29).
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Paul tells us that we who are many [Jews and Gentiles, all believers, ALL the saints] "... ARE ONE BODY IN CHRIST" (Rom. 12:5). Listen, Paul’s thoughts and prayers were always with the Jewish saints in Judea (Rom. 9:3), and Peters thoughts and prayers were always with the Gentile believers under Paul’s care (II Pet. 3:15-16).
Peter read and studied "... ALL the [Paul’s] epistles ..." In Rom. 15:4 Paul says "... that through the endurance and the consolation of the SCRIPTURES we may have expectation." The only Scriptures at this time were the Old Testament Hebrew Scriptures. And any "expectation" of the Gentiles would be one shared with Israel. Later Paul says that Christ came to the Circumcision, "... to confirm the patriarchal promises" (Rom. 15:08). With this promise in mind, Paul says, "... it is written ...’Be merry, ye nations, WITH HIS PEOPLE [Israel]" (Ver 9 & 10).
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mercy, peace and love
Kat
Ian 155:
Thanks Kat ,yes I see now, rather am starting to see ,even parts our striving is carnal [I want to be blessed so let me deal with this man of sin - mmmm] - however when the lord ,in split seconds shows you ,In Love, that all your striving is actually him anyway, the verse "God is all in All" becomes painfully clearer - perhaps we need to understand that its not us who quickens his coming into our life, its his goodness.
Who will save me from this vessel of Sin ...I do take heart that It is when we SEEK the kingdom all these things will be added - unless i got is wrong Seek does not imply, FIND ...
thanks for the info
Ian
Kat:
Hi Ian,
As God is sovereign, therefore He is behind everything. But things are being worked out through each and every one of us to gain results. We live out this life experience whatever we are given, first it starts with a carnal nature and that brings about the results needed for development of the good and evil knowledge (remember the tree). We will keep going in a carnal state of being/thinking unless the Holy Spirit comes in and intervenes. This only happens to a very few right now that are being prepared to reign with Christ. So if that Spirit is indwelling It will give you the faith, desire and will needed to overcome the carnal nature, but It will do it by developing those things in you. So though it is through the Spirit indwelling, it is worked in and by and to teach you.
All of the promises are for believers that are being prepared as the elect. Sometimes it seems all the Scriptures are directed to believers. Just keep striving, seeking and learning, you certainly will not find if you are not seeking, and a few will.
Pro 8:17 I love those who love Me, and those who seek Me diligently will find Me.
Jer 29:11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the LORD, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope.
v. 12 Then you will call upon Me and go and pray to Me, and I will listen to you.
v. 13 And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart.
Matt 7:7 "Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.
v. 8 For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.
Acts 17:27 so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us;
mercy, peace and love
Kat
Foxx:
Matthew 7:7 - For every one who is asking doth receive, and he who is seeking doth find, and to him who is knocking it shall be opened.
ask and receive
seek and find
knock and the door will be opened
There is a way to ask however, it isn't just to ask however we want.
[EDIT: Kat beat me to the punch]
Peace!
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