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newgene87:

--- Quote from: gmik on July 06, 2012, 09:45:29 PM ---in the sky and they are always looking down at us....these are Christian services that say they believe the Bible.
but REALLY....
where do they get this??  I smile and shut my mouth.

Oh well.

I am watching 20/20 tonite on heaven and hell.....scheeeesh.....

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this is what bothers me... they say this even at a person funeral, who were actually a "bad" people. meaning: i loved my grandmother, she died almost 10 years ago; and after learning ALL the "evil" things she did, the people she used, how she treated her kids, etc after etc - everyone had all nice things to say at her funeral and the preacher still says she's in the sky looking down.... now, "I" feel as tho, if yall are gonna preach hell every sunday, why stop now?? and like you said, where is this in the sky thing?? now i am comforted that Our Savior is gonna judge her and cause her to repent even after death; but that does rub me silly how they act at people's funerals, even tho everyone believes in their heart she's going to hell but then again, say their looking down from heaven  :o. it was only till i found this amazing site that i'm rest assured that She is ASLEEP and awaiting a Great WHITE Throne of Judgment (Rev20:11) ;D ;D ;)

indianabob:
Hi Jerry,
"Of course I gave them everything I have learned"....

I wonder if you could share a little more of the situation in which you "preached" a funeral.
For example what did the mourners understand your background to be, how did the immediate family take the information that you shared? What was your relationship? Was it as pastor, or friend of the deceased or some other relationship?

I haven't had much success in sharing our truth with others; perhaps I can learn from your experience.
I have noticed that quite a few other members of BT have been tempted to offer something similar and it didn't often work out as they had hoped. So I'm interested in whether your approach is going to result in a benefit for those who heard it?
Just curious. Indianabob





--- Quote from: the truth on July 06, 2012, 10:02:21 PM ---Gmik,
Recently I preached a friends funeral and Of course I gave them everything I have learned in truth from Ray.And others here on the forum.It was the most amazing thing to see the looks on their faces when I told them Mitch was a sleep...you know death is sleep.And I went on to proclaim Gods truth for His creation.Afterwards I did have a few come up and say that was the most awesome message they ever heard at a funeral.But the rest looked at me as if I would be the next to be laid to rest....ouch!That is whats so awesome about truth it brings hope to ANY situation!

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the truth:
Hello Indiana Bob!
The person I represented was a life long friend Mitch Alexzander.He was what you would call a wild child!He was so real... would give you the shirt off his back.He believed in Jesus but didnt live it as a converted believer.He drank alot and as I said he was carnality at its finest.As he lived across the street from me.We began to talk about the things of God and they interested him greatly.It was amazing that he had more faith in God and His Love for Him  than any traditon of men I ever saw.As I have been able to use public access tv here in Nashville. His Mom began to watch and be interested in the truth of the Kingdom.So I would go across the street and talk about God plan for His creation with them.Soon Mitch and his mom began to see this beautiful plan.His mom asked me one day ,That when she died would I preach her funeral. To which I said if you go before me I would be honored.As I said that Mitch said "You know you have to do mine right."So it wasnt 8 months later Mitch died of a heart attack at 46-years old.His brother who i also knew well ask would i preach the funeral.And I said I would but only if I could preach the truth.he knew what I meant because I have been sharing God plan with him as well.He said jerry thats what I want you to do and thats what Mitch would have wanted.So I told him 'Charlie  I will be honored to represent Mitch, but above all I have to honor my Lord".So I told him the things I will share may not go over to well with a lot of people and not to be offended or feel like he had to take up for me if someone said something to me.He said I dont care what any one says I want you to preach what you preach to me.So thats what I DID!So here is what I shared in a nutshell.

1.I told them the greatest hurdle we had today to be able to celebrate Mitch life was that of religion..mans doctorine.
2. I told them that jesus said to His disciples "Why do you look at the speck in your brother eye when you have a log in yours.
and "if YOU LOOK AT A WOMAN LUSTFULLY YOU COMMITED ADULTERY.And if your angry with your brother you Murdered Him.And I ask who can get out of that?
3.So I said "What I am trying to do is get ourself to see who we are untill  the Grace of God has its perfect way"
4. So I said today we must all make up our mind of one importnant question."Where is MITCH now and what is Mitch exsperiecing."
5. so I gave them Ps-13-3 for were Mitch is now!and Ecc-9-5,10. for what Mitch was exsperiecing.
6.I said Paul was not confused about when he would put on His Crown.2-tim 4-6-8.
7. Then I asked who believed in this verse 1JN-4-14?
8. Then I asked how could a person be saved today....."would you say by confession." and shared 1-cor 12-3 and Phil 2-10-11.which proofed all would be saved eventually.
9. then I said "well I dont know Jerry if you die in your sins you go to Hell."then I used Rays "O" REALLY" HEHE..I used Ezekiel 16-53-54.to show that God would restore Sodom to thier former state,which has never happened in the history of the world as of yet.I used Is-19-19-25 to show the whole nation of Egypt would worship God which has not ever happened yet either.along with 1-Jn-2-2,and 1-Cor 15-24-28.
10. Then I shared why God loved Mitch and them as well..Because their Gods kinfolk all the way from Adam.And No one was like them,and they could not be replaced.and to remember the parable of 99/1 God would leave the 99 to find the 1.
11.Then shared some times I spent with Mitch and encouraged them to trust the Creator with Mitch, His had Him ALL THE WAYand will continue to see Him through.Eph-1-11.
So thats what I shared .It will be something I want forget.Because if Mitch Mom goes before me, then I will be once again be before the traditions of men.Thanks Bob for being interested in my exsperience sorry if I was long winded.

gmik:
awesome replies....I loved all of
  them and oddly enough feel lots better :D

Jerry---awesome, thanks for sharing!!!

newgene87:
oh wow. i bet those people sat in their chairs like  ??? :o ??? :o :-X :-\ :o ???

i visualize i lot of shifting of body positions, arms crossing, legs crossing, bibles opening, pens writing... too bad even as simple that is to us, that was ALL probably a big parable to most of those people. For it still stands, "this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them." (Mat 13:15)

but no doubt, i pray the Grace of God will work in them! Praise God for your will to teach and preach the truth tho ;) :D 8)
its not like their going to Hell :P

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