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Kat:

Hi Gina,

Well we do have to realize this is a translation and "sold" may not have been the actual word Paul used. Here is how Concordant has it.

Rom 7:14 For we are aware that the law is spiritual, yet I am fleshly, having been disposed of under Sin. (CLV)

It is the spirit behind the words, not the words themself. Anyway that was probably just another way that Paul was trying to get his point across that some people may have understood.

mercy, peace and love
Kat
 

Gina:
Right.  That word disposed makes a lot of sense.  We have "artwork" throughout our office suite of contracts of indentured servants from back in the 1900's.  These people couldn't support themselves so they basically sold themselves to someone else and became their servants for life.  It's a stark reminder of how weak to sin we are.

longhorn:
We are all at some point carnal or " Spritually Weak or Poor " and sold under sin.  Leviticus 25:25 comes to mind, " If one of your brethren becomes poor, and has sold some of his posession, and if, his REDEEMING ( Christ our redeemer) relative comes to redeem it, he may redeem what his brother sold.  We know Esau sold his birthright to Jacob.  Paul after receiving revelation knew very well he had been sold under sin, but he also knew his redeemer had it covered.

newgene87:

--- Quote from: Gina on July 11, 2012, 12:04:17 AM ---It's still a lot of work, Eugene.  I mean, we have to wrestle -- the struggle sometimes is so tough that you always need to be on guard.  Always....  The struggle of the flesh.  It's unrelenting....

Now I really sound like I'm bipolar.

--- End quote ---

you did  ;D ;D ;D ;)

but it is a struggle. but Paul doesnt leave us hanging with sin and death and that's it. He says, "...where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord" (Rom 5:20-21)

and i will never forget the first audio i heard of Ray about Repentance. so in His words...
"Anyway, I thought that was about the best you could do.  Boy, I was so thankful for one thing though. GRACE! Boy was I glad that this Bible talked about grace, because there was nobody who needed grace more than me!...I thought true spiritual conversion did not even exist and that's what Grace did. You did the best you could and where you didn’t do very good, it (grace) just filled in the gaps. That was about as spiritual as my mind would go for a long time. 

But God was working with me. I didn’t know it, I just thought I’m drifting through life. But God was working with me, for me, sometimes against me (which was also for me). [End Quote]

Ray put that so great. Repentance plays alot in us COMING out of being "sold under sin". For we are carnal. born of the flesh; naturally we're born into slavery. Just as if a child was born while his parents were slaves; HES a slave by right of the owner. We're all under the influence of sin. but thanks to grace.

Eugene

Joel:
We were owned by sin in the world, the flesh, and the devil. But we have been bought.
1st Corinthians 6:20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Joel

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