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joeshrink:
Hey Jeremy,
Just wanted to thank you for your perspective- but I have to disagree that predeterminism and free will cannot occur in the same system. I have found that most paradoxes can and do have simultaneous actions and that it is only the human mind that seems to place things in paradoxical relationship.
A quick example:
Light and Darkness or if you like heat and cold. Both are defined by an absence of the other, yet there is no place in this world where light and heat absolutely do not exist (only in theory mind you)- so one can say they both exists concurently- perhaps in varying degrees but yet there is no place that is completely dark- or absolutely cold, just as there is no place that contains pure light or absolute heat.
No doubt God has transcended things and continually "predetermines" outcomes, yet we do have choices and a will that is "free"- do either exist in absolute forms? I think not and so I suppose that they exist in varying degrees- a seeming paradox working concurently.
Now- I don't want you to get the idea that I am completely sold on this model, only that I have found absolutes to be very uncommon in this world- and so I try not to think in them- and always take caution when I hear others speaking in absolutes. Besides "only Syths deal in absolutes" One of the Jedi nights said that in Starwars- I just can't remember which one :) . The lesson though is that using absolute thinking inevitably leads to distruction.
lauraathome2005:
" Besides "only Syths deal in absolutes" One of the Jedi nights said that in Starwars- I just can't remember which one"
That would be Obi-Wan Kenobi ;)
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