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Who will we be?
doug:
Hi Kat -
Thank you for your input. But like me, as I stated... conjecture without scriptural backing... I believe yours also was an emotional response.
Here is an analogy to what I heard to this question (sex in heaven) while I was in the "church" which goes along to what I believe you tried to get across:
The question of lovemaking in "heaven" is like a child's question whether you can eat candy during "sex". A funny question only from the adult's point of view. Candy is one of children's greatest pleasures; how can they conceive a pleasure so intense that it renders candy irrelevant? Only if you know both can you compare two things, and all those who have tasted both the delights of "sex" with the earthly beloved and the delights of "spiritual love" with God, testify that there is simply no comparison.
Kat, I am surely not saying what you contributed is not right. I still have some questions about that analogy. But, I equally have just as many questions with what I suggested. I am just so happy to be able to discuss this kind of stuff on a like minded forum. I believe truth will prevail... and I will be settled in my mind either way! I have no biased opinion! I have no point to prove! Lewis and I can't learn if we don't ask... and speaking for myself now... foolishness to some doesn't mean that it is foolishness to me!
doug
the truth:
None of us are nearly as spiritually smart as we think we are. We are at the spiritual intellectual level of an unborn baby.
Man I am reminded of that everyday John!I have to agree!
Wanted to ask because your statement:"The Scripture also state that God will have Sons and Daughters."Caught my attention.
In 1Jn 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
So my question is.IT seems as if all the Scriptures that refer to Sons and Daughters are in the the reference as to what we are BEFORE we put on Immortality.
I dont know ..like I said your qoute caught my attention.Jerry
doug:
Mark, you answered my questions specifically with those scriptures you provided. Especially Mk. 16:12 where it states appearing in another form... I take it that this is probably how we will appear to those "flesh" dwelling beings not in the resurrection and how we will minister to them. We can't be invisible... I don't see how that can work! That was one of the hang ups I had about our new bodies... how we would be recognized by others if an invisible spirit.
I see now that what I mistakenly thought was conjecture actually was not, as you did provide scriptural proof. I have read those scriptures before... but not into the context to this application "spirit beings" in the Kingdom Age. Before I studied this forum I knew of no such thing as a Kingdom Age! I certainly am sincere in what I post, and with all of your scriptural help, I can avoid not to "think above that which is written." If I just sit on the side lines so to speak, and not dive into questions with a humble learning attitude, I will never learn the deeper concepts of God's word.
When you said "hope this helps".... yes sir, it most certainly does! I can't learn unless I throw out seeming stupid questions. But, at the same time this question is not so stupid to me and most importantly I pray that because of my unfounded comments I don't make anyone fall in their understanding to the correct interpretation. That's why we are all here... to help each other... iron sharpens iron!
doug
the truth:
Hello,Doug
Hope all is well.I understand your trying to work through this Subject.It seems your answer could be found in this thought.... maybe not.If there is sex with a glorified body...which i myself don't believe as of now.Would that not be fornication? Because the Scripture says
Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
John from Kentucky:
--- Quote from: the truth on July 23, 2012, 09:42:51 PM ---None of us are nearly as spiritually smart as we think we are. We are at the spiritual intellectual level of an unborn baby.
Man I am reminded of that everyday John!I have to agree!
Wanted to ask because your statement:"The Scripture also state that God will have Sons and Daughters."Caught my attention.
In 1Jn 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
So my question is.IT seems as if all the Scriptures that refer to Sons and Daughters are in the the reference as to what we are BEFORE we put on Immortality.
I dont know ..like I said your qoute caught my attention.Jerry
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Hi Jerry,
The scripture I refer to is 2 Cor. 6:18, "I will be a Father to you, And you shall be my sons and daughters, Says the LORD Almighty."
Father/Yahweh/Jehovah----refers to His Self-Existent, Continuous Presence---He Who Is, Was, and Will BE. So He is in the future too. A Father---sons and daughters----I don't get sons and daughters without a sexual difference.
But who knows for sure but God. For sure, if we will be sons and daughters, then God will have to set me down and draw me a picture as to the exact differences between a spiritual son and daughter rather than an it! ;D ;D ;D
John
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