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satan's revolt
the truth:
Hello,Micah7:9
I see your response to Dave.Its that your looking for information about how Dake and other gathered this info together to draw their conclusion correct?I actually know the grand daughter of Dake and she still works for the the company.I will email her and ask if she could give me any idea about this issue.I have never studied it out before.Actually i have always seen Rev-12... as a future event more than a past event.Anyway I also Have the entire series from dake "God plan for man"that Kim sent me.Just maybe I will look through that to see if there is a teaching on it in the series.I haven't touched it since I found Ray sight many years ago.
Also i found a email that might help you confirm that it ....may.... just be as Ray says if the church teaches its a good chance its not right.Her is the email
Revelations
« on: January 25, 2007, 03:39:28 PM »
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DEAR RAY,
I HAVE NOT UNDERSTOOD REV.12 AND THE WAR IN HEAVEN. IT'S USED AGAINST ME ALL THE TIME FOR SATAN BEING A REBEL OF HIS OWN WILL. CAN YOU PLEASE HELP?
BRIAN
Dear Brian:
I get asked to explain the entire book of Revelation all the time--one Scripture, one doctrine, one question, one email at a time. I can't do it. It would take all my time for years. It would be like composing my "Lake of Fire" series in thousands and thousands of emails. This is not the way to do it. Suffice it to say, that if the Church teaches it, it is most likely wrong. I assure you that there is not now, nor has there ever been A WAR IN THE THRONE ROOM OF ALMIGHTY GOD. This kind of nonsense only happens on Star Trek and in the minds of Christian theologians. One day I may write a commentary (verse by verse) through Revelation, but not today. I have more on my plate than I can handle, and I am still forced to find means of supporting my family even though I have retired from roofing. Revelation and Daniel are not subjects for thousands of emails. I receive at least five to ten emails daily that would take one to two weeks to answer. And I receive tens of thousands of emails. Hope you understand.
Deb..Loved that post ..Love to see you posting again more frequently.You are a Dynamite sister !
And as per Marques:Why would we want to search into something that based on a lie!Well,..until its a lie to you!You want know its a lie.So is it a lie to you are or you not sure?Sound like you need to make sure?If you would like i will send any info to you I can gather.AS i believe its a lie myself as far as I have studied the subject .Which as I have shared has not been much.
dave:
--- Quote from: mharrell08 on July 26, 2012, 01:08:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: micah7:9 on July 26, 2012, 12:50:52 PM ---I know it is not real just how in the world the fabrication came about. I mean you pick up the Dake bible and there it is foot notes and all.Thanks Dave
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Probably the same way most lies begin...enough people state a lie over and over again to those who will listen, and over time it becomes 'truth'.
As you've stated to Dave, you know the truth of the matter, so that should answer your question as to why you cannot find further information on 'Satan's revolt'. It's hard to find background information on a subject that is based on a lie.
Marques
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Yeah I know you are correct, I have just been watching to much religion TV. I always hope that maybe, just maybe some body hit on the truth. I need to take my own advice and quit digging a dry hole. Thanks.
dave:
--- Quote from: the truth on July 26, 2012, 01:23:21 PM ---Hello,Micah7:9
I see your response to Dave.Its that your looking for information about how Dake and other gathered this info together to draw their conclusion correct?I actually know the grand daughter of Dake and she still works for the the company.I will email her and ask if she could give me any idea about this issue.I have never studied it out before.Actually i have always seen Rev-12... as a future event more than a past event.Anyway I also Have the entire series from dake "God plan for man"that Kim sent me.Just maybe I will look through that to see if there is a teaching on it in the series.I haven't touched it since I found Ray sight many years ago.
Also i found a email that might help you confirm that it ....may.... just be as Ray says if the church teaches its a good chance its not right.Her is the email
Revelations
« on: January 25, 2007, 03:39:28 PM »
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DEAR RAY,
I HAVE NOT UNDERSTOOD REV.12 AND THE WAR IN HEAVEN. IT'S USED AGAINST ME ALL THE TIME FOR SATAN BEING A REBEL OF HIS OWN WILL. CAN YOU PLEASE HELP?
BRIAN
Dear Brian:
I get asked to explain the entire book of Revelation all the time--one Scripture, one doctrine, one question, one email at a time. I can't do it. It would take all my time for years. It would be like composing my "Lake of Fire" series in thousands and thousands of emails. This is not the way to do it. Suffice it to say, that if the Church teaches it, it is most likely wrong. I assure you that there is not now, nor has there ever been A WAR IN THE THRONE ROOM OF ALMIGHTY GOD. This kind of nonsense only happens on Star Trek and in the minds of Christian theologians. One day I may write a commentary (verse by verse) through Revelation, but not today. I have more on my plate than I can handle, and I am still forced to find means of supporting my family even though I have retired from roofing. Revelation and Daniel are not subjects for thousands of emails. I receive at least five to ten emails daily that would take one to two weeks to answer. And I receive tens of thousands of emails. Hope you understand.
Deb..Loved that post ..Love to see you posting again more frequently.You are a Dynamite sister !
And as per Marques:Why would we want to search into something that based on a lie!Well,..until its a lie to you!You want know its a lie.So is it a lie to you are or you not sure?Sound like you need to make sure?If you would like i will send any info to you I can gather.AS i believe its a lie myself as far as I have studied the subject .Which as I have shared has not been much.
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Thanks truth, I've read and re read Ray all time time. I just get so amazed that people really, I mean really believe stuff that's out there. They cannot possibly do there own work as to study. I bought the Dake, thought it would be a good study tool, but like ALL study bibles, the notes and affirmations are all their own ideas. I payed $55 bucks for it and I only take it out mainly to debate whether to toss it or give it to someone. Don't like tossing books and I could never give it to someone who would probably believe it.
indianabob:
I see that I have been kept in the dark, perhaps for a reason.
I have never heard of the Dake bible until today.
I know that I haven't missed much of value, but I'm curious why I hadn't stumbled upon it in my years of searching for Bible commentary. Hhmmmm?
Indianabob
Dave in Tenn:
I feel the same way about my Scofield reference bible.
Don't know how it began, but it's not extremely 'new'. I heard at least a version of it 30+ years ago. Like every new thing, no doubt I believed it for a while.
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