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cjwood:
duane, i looked at some of the old emails to ray, and found one from april 2007 in which ray discusses some of his thoughts on j. preston eby. you may not have read this particular one. below is a portion of that email:
I read several whole papers of J. Preston Eby before I came across such things as this Kersey guy teaches: The Doctrine of Circularity, in which Eby teaches we are eternal spirit beings having no beginning, and that we lived with God from eternity, but apparently forgot all that when He put into these physical bodies, for what godly purpose I know not, seeing that we are already perfect from all eternity. Eby too believes in a "modified" version of free will. He also speaks in gibberish, teaches tithing of money, and such unscriptural heresy.
I know where you are coming from, Lois. I have personally "been there done that."
I would encourage you to keep reading the material on our site. If you come to any statement of any consequence that does not have Scriptures to back it up, write me and let me know about, okay.
God be with you,
Ray
Gina:
--- Quote from: indianabob on August 10, 2012, 08:11:42 PM ---Hey youthful Gina,
You will have to catch me first.
Seriously though, I do understand to a small extent the idea of ecstasy beyond comprehension. It came upon me a couple of times as I was studying and as I realized what it truly meant to "possibly" be one of God's elect. To truly realize and believe it in my own mind and heart that I could speak to God or to God's son the Lord Jesus as to a friend, to have him place his hand on my shoulder to comfort and steady my thoughts.
Sometimes it is similar to being at a wake and trying to comfort a friend who is grieving for a lost child or spouse. You can be so sincere about it that you begin to weep and you haven't yet spoken a word.
It is at those rare times in study or meditation that one may be closest to our elder brother the Lord Jesus. It is at those times that a person can know that they are forgiven and established in Christ.
It is complete ecstasy in peace with God.
Isn't that what we are facing in our near future?
I-bob
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Yes, I know exactly what you mean, and yes, I believe that's what we are facing in our near future. :)
Gina:
--- Quote from: cjwood on August 10, 2012, 11:56:57 PM ---duane, i looked at some of the old emails to ray, and found one from april 2007 in which ray discusses some of his thoughts on j. preston eby. you may not have read this particular one. below is a portion of that email:
I read several whole papers of J. Preston Eby before I came across such things as this Kersey guy teaches: The Doctrine of Circularity, in which Eby teaches we are eternal spirit beings having no beginning, and that we lived with God from eternity, but apparently forgot all that when He put into these physical bodies, for what godly purpose I know not, seeing that we are already perfect from all eternity. Eby too believes in a "modified" version of free will. He also speaks in gibberish, teaches tithing of money, and such unscriptural heresy.
I know where you are coming from, Lois. I have personally "been there done that."
I would encourage you to keep reading the material on our site. If you come to any statement of any consequence that does not have Scriptures to back it up, write me and let me know about, okay.
God be with you,
Ray
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Thank you for pulling that out, Claudia.
Hey Duane, I even think Eby has some interesting insights but I sense an air of vanity, or dishonesty, or immaturity, maybe it's fear or a combination of all that, surrounding him / his teachings. I can't tell you why I think that is. Ray was none of that.
indianabob:
Hi again Duane,
I agree with the critique of J. Preston Eby's total writings.
It is good advice to use extreme care.
Even Satan MAKES HIMSELF into an angel of "the light".
Very few would swallow patent lies whole, but many if not most will swallow almost any type of spiritual poison if it is sweetened with enough sugar.
Thanks for your research and please keep on double checking.
Indianabob
gmik:
Eby probably was used by God for a time or season and helped some people at stages in their journey. Maybe a nugget is used to help Duane in whatever...people ease up...I was reading Martin Zender for awhile until i saw some things and have moved on..but he hellped for a moment in my life ...the Lord can teach us from a braying a@@ if He wants too.. but for me I always come back to Ray's papers..but I am not afraid to read others.....FYI newbies....stick w/ Ray till you mature ;)
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