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Introducing myself
gregorydc:
Welcome and may God bless you as he has me here!
Greg
Cypress:
Welcome!
bpenelli:
Welcome Virginia,
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DINOSAURS IN THE BIBLE ?
While we are at it, where do the dinosaurs fit into the Bible? Alright there is one place that I think that they fit.
It’s interesting that there are only three things that God said He “created.”
1) The heavens and the earth (Gen. 1:1).
2) He created man and woman (Gen. 1:27).
3) And He created the great tanniyn (Gen. 1:21). That’s what the Bible translates whales. A lot of newer translations like Concordant, have it “great monsters.”
Gen 1:21 And creating is the Elohim great monsters… (CLV)
Gen 1:21 And God created the great sea-monsters… (Rotherham)
Gen 1:21 So God created the great sea monsters… (NRS)
Gen 1:21 And God prepareth the great monsters… (YLT)
They look like monsters don’t they.
In Strong’s the Hebrew tanniyn and tanniym - a marine or land monster, that is, sea serpent or jackal: - dragon, sea-monster, serpent, whale.
But they do have it down as a serpent in Strong’s. In Exodus 7:9 we read of a serpent, but it is the word tanniyn. In Exodus 7:15 it plainly tells us that this tanniyn was Strong’s no. 5175 which is nachash, which is a snake. So we know that the tanniyn were in the snake family or the snake family was in the tanniyn family or that a snake can also be called a tanniyn, which is a reptile.
Gen 1:21 And God created great whales (tanniyn)…
Can you see why He would use the word “great“? The only place in the Genesis creation where He used the word great, one time only, “the great tanniyn.”
At our little chat last night (in hotel lobby), I was saying how I was laying in bed one night and I got to thinking about this… I think about this stuff all day long too. But I’m laying there thinking about how God says He told the first people that He made there in verse 28, “and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth” (Gen 1:28).
I said wait a minute, what is this in here, because back in Genesis it said, “And God said—Let the waters swarm with an abundance of living soul, and, birds, shall fly over the earth…” (Gen 1:20)
So He made the fowl of the air and the fish in the sea and on the next day before He made the first humans… I’m not sure that was Adam and Eve, because Adam comes along in chapter 2. But God said in verse 25, “And God made the wild-beast of the land after its kind, and the tame-beast after its kind, and every creeping thing of the ground, after its kind.”
So we have the fish of the sea, the birds of the air and the creeping things and cattle on the earth, right. Then He said after He made the humans verse 28 “and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the bird of the heavens, and over every living thing that moveth on the land.”
Why didn’t he have dominion over the great tanniyn? This is the thing that He calls great of all the animals, the birds or the fishes. The one thing that He calls great is the great tanniyn. So why didn’t He said have dominion over the great tanniyn? Because they had been dead for 65 million years, that‘s why. There were no great tanniyn, when the humans were made, that’s why they didn’t have dominion over them or they would have had dominion over them along with the fish and the birds and everything else. You see the fish and the birds and everything, they survived down to the creation of the humanity. The great tanniyn were no longer there, that’s why they could not have dominion over them.
One other point regarding this is these dinosaurs lived by the millions and millions and millions on the face of this earth. Millions of these dinosaurs lived. If you go to these fraudulent creation museums they will have you think that there was children playing with dinosaurs or riding on their backs or whatever. Yet they know that there are no dinosaurs anymore. How do they account for that? ‘Well they were all killed in the flood, that’s why there are no dinosaurs today, they were killed in the flood.’ Excuse me do you see a problem with that? They say, ‘Of course that’s why we don’t have them God wiped them out in the flood.’ What is the problem there?
[Noah couldn’t get them on the ark] Well even if he could, there is still a problem with that. [Well we don’t have them now, where did they go?] Right. So they have no answer for that. Dinosaurs died out, probably from the Chicxulub impact crater that caused a nuclear winter and they all died, except small mammals and things that could crawl in holes and some how survive a year or two.
So they said, ‘Oh we have the perfect answer for that. They were killed in Noah’s flood.’ Excuse me, what was the purpose of the ark? To preserve the animals. Those double talking lying frauds, all of them. How can you take them on the ark to preserve them and have the flood kill them all? You can’t have it both ways. If they were taken on the ark to be preserved, then they would have lived after the flood and been preserved. They would have had to live at least the first couple of thousand of years or so. But we don’t have one example of a human being with a dinosaur.
So any way they slice it, they fail. If they died in the flood, then God didn’t do what He said the purpose of the ark was, to have a male and female of every animal to preserve it. That is a major point actually.
[Why did the Lord make them?] Well I don’t know. I’ll tell you something else I don’t know why did He take so long to do this? I have some ideas, but I’m not going to put those out until I have a couple more years to meditate on it.
Brad
Gina:
This is a good find, Brad!
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