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most impressive message, item you recieved from Ray
ez2u:
The most significant attribute i got was really two
1. read all the words
2. he always had a questioning mind
those two things impacted me the most
newgene87:
First I will say - "Myth of Free Will" and "Hell" series WAS AND STILL IS Life changing for me. But as far as his "tactics"
This is pretty tough but
[1] His "ONE OF KIND" Humor
{from His myth of Free Will part A} First he suggests that Satan is challenging God’s supremacy (sovereignty). Not true. Satan couldn’t challenge his own tail in the presence of God. Next man’s integrity is being tested. Not true. Man has no integrity. And finally that the “primary purpose” of our very existence is “the vindication of God’s supremacy (sovereignty).
And just how does the god of this world’s religions hope to accomplish this great goal of being adjudicated as “Supreme Sovereign of the Universe?” Why by creating billions and billions of humans with “free moral agency,” all of which supposedly CAN, and most of which supposedly WILL, THWART AND WRECK HIS PRIMARY PURPOSE, and never ever love or obey him!!
[2] and his ability to teach in a humorous way, but NAILS the idea {From Sheol Translated Grave} We have seen that our Lord’s instructions to cut off an offending hand or foot, or to pluck out an offending eye is not literal, but figurative, spiritual, symbolic language. It is really the offenses of the heart, which are to be cast off, not our physical limbs. Well then, can it be true that any actually will enter into life "halt or maimed" if the halting and maiming itself is not literal. Of course not. Imagine living an eternity with God maimed and crippled like some wartime amputee? What kind of a heaven would that be? It is hard to believe that Christians (and even professional theologians), pay little or no attention to the many many words that contradict their heretical doctrines. But in their crazed addiction for their "literal, literal, literal," interpretation, they become scholastic fools.
Okay then, as the "cutting off of hands and feet" is not literal, and the "entering into life halt and maimed" is not literal, by what law of logic or language should the "everlasting fire" be considered literal?
Just a bit :P
Ray warms my heart and The truth of the Scripture convicts me
Eugene
dave:
You gotta read all the words and Wrong Paleface.
Gina:
Believe God.
Samson:
--- Quote from: newgene87 on August 16, 2012, 06:28:06 PM ---First I will say - "Myth of Free Will" and "Hell" series WAS AND STILL IS Life changing for me. But as far as his "tactics"
This is pretty tough but
[1] His "ONE OF KIND" Humor
{from His myth of Free Will part A} First he suggests that Satan is challenging God’s supremacy (sovereignty). Not true. Satan couldn’t challenge his own tail in the presence of God. Next man’s integrity is being tested. Not true. Man has no integrity. And finally that the “primary purpose” of our very existence is “the vindication of God’s supremacy (sovereignty).
And just how does the god of this world’s religions hope to accomplish this great goal of being adjudicated as “Supreme Sovereign of the Universe?” Why by creating billions and billions of humans with “free moral agency,” all of which supposedly CAN, and most of which supposedly WILL, THWART AND WRECK HIS PRIMARY PURPOSE, and never ever love or obey him!!
[2] and his ability to teach in a humorous way, but NAILS the idea {From Sheol Translated Grave} We have seen that our Lord’s instructions to cut off an offending hand or foot, or to pluck out an offending eye is not literal, but figurative, spiritual, symbolic language. It is really the offenses of the heart, which are to be cast off, not our physical limbs. Well then, can it be true that any actually will enter into life "halt or maimed" if the halting and maiming itself is not literal. Of course not. Imagine living an eternity with God maimed and crippled like some wartime amputee? What kind of a heaven would that be? It is hard to believe that Christians (and even professional theologians), pay little or no attention to the many many words that contradict their heretical doctrines. But in their crazed addiction for their "literal, literal, literal," interpretation, they become scholastic fools.
Okay then, as the "cutting off of hands and feet" is not literal, and the "entering into life halt and maimed" is not literal, by what law of logic or language should the "everlasting fire" be considered literal?
Just a bit :P
Ray warms my heart and The truth of the Scripture convicts me
Eugene
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Eugene,
Those are some of my favorite points, ie- " Man has no integrity" & " Satan couldn't challenge His own tail in the presence of God."
To add to the above, I appreciate where Ray says that " God is not running a damage control center from Heaven." Most people believe God is waiting to react to every choice We make and has to figure out what He needs to do next based on Human mistakes.
My former Denomination was big on Satan and Humans challenging God's Sovereignty and once I was misled to believe such a thing, thankful that I don't anymore. God's 100% Total Sovereignty is appreciated by Me. All of that really changed my approach to prayer.
Thanks, Samson.
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