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most impressive message, item you recieved from Ray
Vera:
There are so many, but lately I was reading from (Bible Study Feb. 2008) Foundational Truths - Seven Foundational Scriptures.
Ray said:
"This is not going to be a difficult study. But it is going to be maybe one of the most profound studies I have ever given".
He taught us how to believe in these 7 Scriptures and how to apply them to every page of the Bible.
It is a great study I'm still going through it. Amazing how God open my eyes and guides me to learn exactly what I need. Ray was truly God's chosen teacher for the elect.
Also "12 God Given Truths" very impressive...
I'm thankful for this Forum it is so good to have all Rays papers to continue reading and learning.
blessings to you all,
Vera
Gina:
How hard is getting saved? “If Adam and Eve had not sinned, there would be no such thing as death.” (King)
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php?topic=3849.0
When my nephew was five and just diagnosed with cystic fibrosis, and learned that it could mean a very early death my sister told me how he looked at her and said, I hope I die soon so I can be with Jesus. That just blew me away. How could he not be afraid....
The thought of dying was much scarier when I was in the church. Ironically, for all the hell fire and damnation preached there, I swear it only served to make the world look so much more desirable.
After reading Ray, I mistakenly thought getting saved would finally be the easiest thing to do and was relieved to learn that my righteousness would exceed that of the pharisees, through God working in a LOT of miracles in me. But God is faithful. "let God be true, but every man a liar" (Romans 3:4).
:)
gmik:
i would have to say it was that everyone ever born would be saved!!!! hallelujah....i still get happy about that!
santikos:
i remember one time i either read or heard him say something like
if the modern church teaches it, then it is wrong.
Gina:
Hey, Santikos! Ray said:
--- Quote ---I have a standing axiom when it comes to studying the Scriptures and teaching and so on… if the church teaches it, it’s false and that‘s it. So people say, ‘what do you think about…’ I say well what does the church teach? They say, ‘well it teaches…’ Well that must be false and I defy anybody to give me an example of something that isn’t. Give me a deep and complete doctrinal dissertation on any Christian doctrine and I will show you that it is not Scriptural.
I think somebody mentioned to me, ‘well you believe that Christ died for your sins, because Christians believe that Christ died for your sins? Surely Ray you believe Christ died for your sins, don’t you?’ I said yes I do, but you don’t. ‘Oh yes I do!’ I said, you meant to tell me that when Christ died on the cross for your sins, that He was dead? ‘Oh, no I didn’t say He was dead.’ Well He didn’t die and you don’t believe that Christ died for your sins. You think the Savior of the world is a cadaver and Christ Himself never tasted death. How fundamental can you get? Does the Christian world as a whole believe that Christ died for your sins? No, He never died. ‘Well what happened when they hung Him on the cross?’ He went to hell… He went to paradise… He went here… He went there. It’s nonsense, unscriptural nonsense.
--- End quote ---
he he -- ‘Well what happened when they hung Him on the cross?’ He went to hell… He went to paradise… He went here… He went there
I don't know how I forgot this. This is a biggie:
I can see where people might be afraid of Him. I’m not afraid of Him anymore. I just feel, what’s the use, why be afraid of Him? He is what He is, I am what I am. I’m not going to be afraid of Him. I respect Him, I’m awe struck, but I’m not afraid, not ‘afraid.’ (from: Are You Afraid of God?)
When I heard him say that after watching that a second time some months apart, that drew me out of that deep pit I was in where I was not liking God very much (to put it mildly). I was then able to put my finger on my problem: I was afraid of God, and where was I going to hide from Him? I'd better start liking him or I wasn't going to be a happy camper. I liked hearing that Ray said he wasn't afraid of him anymore.
:)
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