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If I hear one more person say...
Samson:
--- Quote from: space.ace.jase on August 22, 2012, 04:02:35 PM ---"That's why God gave us a free will!" one more time I'm going to flip out!!
I'm growing to appreciate this forum more and more as lately I can't seem to stop hearing people talking about their "free" will (while I bite my tongue!). It's like a great tree providing shade from the harsh sun to rest in :)
Just wanted to vent a little - post your favourite things you have heard people saying lately that has been frustrating you (or maybe I'm easily irritated :P)
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Here's two for you: 1) First, from my wife's perspective, whenever I respond to Her by saying: " You just don't understand the reality of all this," She can't stand it when I say that to her.
2) " That's just the way it is, there's nothing you can do about it." That comment emanates from My Dad. I can't stand it when He says that.
And it's always about a situation that doesn't directly affect Him. Often, it is an obvious fact that " there's nothing I can do about something." I just get sick of hearing it.
3) Here's one that both My wife and I can't stand hearing from My Dad, I've been hearing this for 50 years or so: " You have two choices when you get up in the Morning, to be happy or to be sad."
Like I get up in the Morning purposely looking for stress & anxiety in order to be sad.
And Yes, space.ace.jase, I dislike hearing about someone's inner power where they were able to utilize their " Free Will " to overcome something coupled with giving no credit to God.
newgene87:
Oh I love this post. Recently I've been dealing with this. I sat in on a bible study of my wife's church...and had to sit there and watch a respected pastor and a minister (both are really good people personally) say,
"God is Sovereign but...."
I absolutely hate a but after that grand statement.Then I message her on Fb and present scripture after scripture after scripture; from 1Tim, 1Joh, Isai, Ezek, Act, Jer - scripture after scripture, the actual verse laid out regarding Gods sovereignty and all: and she responds refuting me WITHOUT even ONE verse of scripture. Just that she doesn't agree and her opinion and "unscriptural remark" after another. That burns me inside.
Then another situation, I lay out Ecclesiastes 3, how God appoints seasons and everything - then someone brings in free will :o....like Ecclesiastes 3 should demolish free will alone. Truly, the world lies in darkness.
That a "prayer language" is different from "speaking in tongues". It's a utterance for us to "utter" to God. And I ask for a scripture or verse on that idea and they don't have one.....O.M.G{!!!!}
Oh oh oh, then I hear --- "the bible says, choose ye this day whom ye will serve"...I say, well Jesus says, "you did not choose me, I chose you" then says, "No one can come to me unless the father drags him". What did they say???? "well, we still have to make a choice"... THEN I ask them, "can a leopard change his spots?". They say NO (which is obvious), I show them the scripture, and THEY STILL insist God gives us a choice, it's silly frustrating. Truly, I love that I'm in His light and peace.
Eugene
Joel:
I was talking to a person recently that believes they have free will. And I asked them as Ray has said; If you have free will, stop yourself from sinning this minute, and never sin again.
Should have seen the look on their face, it was priceless.
Joel
Dave in Tenn:
...there are two (or sometimes more than two) ways to look at that.
When they name them, I discover that I don't look 'at that' either of those ways.
Gina:
--- Quote from: newgene87 on August 22, 2012, 08:30:41 PM ---Oh I love this post. Recently I've been dealing with this. I sat in on a bible study of my wife's church...and had to sit there and watch a respected pastor and a minister (both are really good people personally) say,
"God is Sovereign but...."
I absolutely hate a but after that grand statement.Then I message her on Fb and present scripture after scripture after scripture; from 1Tim, 1Joh, Isai, Ezek, Act, Jer - scripture after scripture, the actual verse laid out regarding Gods sovereignty and all: and she responds refuting me WITHOUT even ONE verse of scripture. Just that she doesn't agree and her opinion and "unscriptural remark" after another. That burns me inside.
Then another situation, I lay out Ecclesiastes 3, how God appoints seasons and everything - then someone brings in free will :o....like Ecclesiastes 3 should demolish free will alone. Truly, the world lies in darkness.
That a "prayer language" is different from "speaking in tongues". It's a utterance for us to "utter" to God. And I ask for a scripture or verse on that idea and they don't have one.....O.M.G{!!!!}
Oh oh oh, then I hear --- "the bible says, choose ye this day whom ye will serve"...I say, well Jesus says, "you did not choose me, I chose you" then says, "No one can come to me unless the father drags him". What did they say???? "well, we still have to make a choice"... THEN I ask them, "can a leopard change his spots?". They say NO (which is obvious), I show them the scripture, and THEY STILL insist God gives us a choice, it's silly frustrating. Truly, I love that I'm in His light and peace.
Eugene
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ha! I love this. I hear L. Ray Smith all over your post! I LOVE it.
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