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Satan's "Half" Lie/Truth??
newgene87:
--- Quote from: Gina on August 26, 2012, 07:39:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: mharrell08 on August 26, 2012, 07:29:44 PM ---Adam and Eve knew they were not eat of this tree, that demonstrates a knowledge of good and evil. But knowledge is worthless unless one knows how to apply it to their lives. That's what I mean by discernment.
Satan said 'in that day you eat it you will be like God'. God said that man is becoming like Us, not in that day. God also makes reference to the tree of life, which is needed if one is to live. Satan makes no reference to how one is to live forever because he does not want them to.
So no, God does not say exactly what Satan says. Why is this even a point of debate?
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Well, I hardly call it debating Marques. I needed a little clearer explanation myself and so I'm pretty glad he asked because your response is just what I needed. Beautiful.
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my point as well. not a debate -- i was trained from a wise man to pay attention to the words and from a intellectual level - i can pretty much see what's on the surface of a page and maybe a few levels below. any deeper than that; i seek understanding but Im able to discern if something is off. But with the right wording and God's revelation, truth is seen --- not debating nor accusation of debating ;D
I mean ive been reading this site for a long time now; the method i used to pull that out is the EXACT same method that Ray uses to discover truths. Am i off that that Satan says it himself that the man's eyes were to be opened and they were to be like God knowing good and evil and God says it came to be in verse 22?? its clearly written and i word it, so Im not wrong. but i'm not saying Satan is a spirit of truth either. but what you said was enlightening so thank you. but im not simple either ;)
God said that man is becoming like Us, not in that day was the golden ticket so thank you. the point is, THAT DAY, is the key i missed. and to slightly correct...
God also makes reference to the tree of life, which is needed if one is to live is missing a KEY element. and that's for "...them to live to the eons". Just for them to live? they lived on to have 3 more children by name and obviously many more. so it's not like they died THAT DAY. But they wont live to the eons till after the Resurrection. :) :) :) so i got it. thanks
Eugene
Joel:
Satan is a liar, and loves to lie on God, using scripture if it is a means to beguile and cause someone to miss the mark in serving God.
There are tons of ministers out there that Satan is using to deceive the masses, is he lording it over God? No! he is being used of God just like he has been used from the beginning.
Satan used parts of Psalms 91:11-12 when he tempted Jesus in the wilderness Matthew 4:5-6.
A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.
Joel
Gina:
--- Quote from: Joel on August 26, 2012, 09:25:10 PM ---Satan is a liar, and loves to lie on God, using scripture if it is a means to beguile and cause someone to miss the mark in serving God.
There are tons of ministers out there that Satan is using to deceive the masses, is he lording it over God? No! he is being used of God just like he has been used from the beginning.
Satan used parts of Psalms 91:11-12 when he tempted Jesus in the wilderness Matthew 4:5-6.
A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.
Joel
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Perfect reminder.
gregorydc:
Just a thought here, I was always told that a good liar uses 90% truth. So satan is the father of lies, maybe that is the reason of your confusion? Because he is the father of lies he is perfect at his job. Hope this helps.
Greg
dave:
--- Quote from: mharrell08 on August 26, 2012, 07:29:44 PM ---Adam and Eve knew they were not eat of this tree, that demonstrates a knowledge of good and evil. But knowledge is worthless unless one knows how to apply it to their lives. That's what I mean by discernment.
Satan said 'in that day you eat it you will be like God'. God said that man is becoming like Us, not in that day. God also makes reference to the tree of life, which is needed if one is to live. Satan makes no reference to how one is to live forever because he does not want them to.
So no, God does not say exactly what Satan says. Why is this even a point of debate?
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I don't see where "Adam and Eve knew they were not eat of this tree, that demonstrates a knowledge of good and evil?" The man was commanded or charged not to eat, okay he had knowledge, but the woman was not told anything except what Adam said when he saw her? So where did the woman get this knowledge?
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