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Patric:
I certainly put much focus into my spiritual life, however I used to think there was not a religious bone in my body, but it turns out I was just really bad at religion. I have issues with leadership over what seemed to simple issues, and was told I was devisive and asked to leave at one point and at times did not want to come. Ultimately it was the relationships that would keep me coming. I agreed with very little of what was being done, but my house had not totally fallen at that point still.

I thought about how I was not repenting or changing and maybe I was just evil. I believed I could do this! Or that I was just bad and it was my choice so most just let me go and at the end I do not think many missed me. I have a few friends still that attend this congregation and or have left there but by and large my seeing is not accepted by anyone I know. I am not surprised but I still like a fool preach and tell what is revealed to me. Most of this I am convinced is for my own hearing. But I can't shut up about it, as this just pours out of me, and none of it is my own understanding. Although I often find myself saying things Ray would or write about. Alas I find myself saying what the scriptures really say, and using two or three witness' with absolute harmony in something I was bad at before flows and the Spirit still convicts me of guilt. I know God is working to mold me into his image of Christ. Amen

acomplishedartis:
Are averange Christians really our brothers? Like the ones that are spiritual babes, and carnal still, But still our brothers? They supposedly believe on the true God of the Scriptures, and thanks to them we can say that we are coming out of her (the church system).

On the other side, they worship a very bizarre image of God, or mostly they worship themselves (with their actions). They really believe to be more powerful than God in many aspects of their life's, after all, they chose Him freely; it was up to them and they are making it...

I am not sure if I would call them brothers. What do you guys about this?


Also, If someone very caranal who is interested in becoming a christian would ask me about the bible and God and church, I am not sure if I would recommend him to go to church first, but probably I would, so he can learn some stuff, loose his first love, see the beast reflected on the mirror and then, if God's will; be able to ''come out of her''.

acomplishedartis:

ps. Even so that ''with more knowledge, there is more sorrow'' Personally I find MY life more exiting and interesting than the boring happy life of an averange christian (with money). Well, this is what I say now, who knows what will be my take on this in a couple decades. What I know is that with more knowledge there is also more capacity for appreciation in general. But I get the point: 'ignorance is bliss' and it's true that they often look so happy on the outside.

Craig:

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Yes I call them brothers, I call the whole human race my brothers.  God is perfecting them the same as us, we are all His children.  It is true that we can choose our friends but we can't choose our family though. They may be blind, we might not like what they do, they may be prodigal, etc. But we better not turn our backs on them.

Craig

se7en:
Well said Craig!

Moises, something that really helped me see "them" as my brothers is look at Joseph and his brothers... what a perfect example of the "church" (the brothers) killing God's elect/Joseph/Christ. They were Joseph's very own brothers. Humankind has one father whether they believe it or not.

It doesn't take someone going "into the church" in order to "come out of the church". Being in "the world" (which really is the church) has enough false doctrine and blasphemy as those in the actual denominational christian world. It's going from carnal fleshy thinking (lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes and pride of life) to Christ's mindset!  All will eventually experience this.

Buddists, New agers, Satanists, agnostics, etc.... They are all our brothers and just as carnal thinking as babes in Christ who do not press on into maturity.

Joseph's brothers were tormented until the old man (their father) died. They thought Joseph was going to pay them back for what they did. They lived in torment because of what they believed. Until that old man, carnal way of thinking is put to death, they will live in torment. Joseph said "I'm going to save you" but his brothers DID NOT BELIEVE HIM!

The difference is in believing "Christ and Him cricified for me"... to "I die daily" and "am crucified WITH Christ". I no longer live, but it is Christ who lives in me. Truth lives in me.

God showing me Joseph and his brothers really helped me see that relationship between the elect and "the world".  I hope that helped!

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