Jude 1 (I got the following verses from
http://bible.cc/jude/1-14.htm -- if you take a look at the verses that this site supplies in addition to the one you're asking about, you might get an answer. I don't have an answer for you though; and if memory serves me, I don't believe Ray spoke on this matter specifically. I have made a comment near the verse that you are curious about, below, but please read the entire chapter and see what the surrounding verses have to say. That might help a little.)
Greeting from Jude
1 Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:
2 Mercy unto you, and peace and love, be multiplied.
Contend for the Faith
3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was necessary for me to write unto you, and exhort you that you should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
God's Judgment of Ungodly, Arrogant Men
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into licentiousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though you once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.
6 And the angels who kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after unnatural lust, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise authority, and speak evil of the glorious ones.
9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil as he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke you.
10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the rebellion of Korah.
12 These are spots in your love feasts, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about by winds; trees whose fruit withers, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.
14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of his saints, [Some versions say "myriad of his saints" and "thousands and thousands of his saints" ... To do what?]
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To execute judgment upon all, and to convict all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. [Greg, From my personal perspective (please don't quote me ) this is happening in my own lifetime.
Know what I'm saying? I wonder myself -- does Jesus come with all those saints / holy ones at the
same Bat time, same Bat date, same Bat Channel; or does the Lord come with those saints IN THEIR HEARTS ALL THROUGH HISTORY IN THESE LAST DAYS OF THE PAST 2000 YEARS AND BEYOND? I don't know the answer to that. Great question. Sorry I couldn't help you. Keep reading through the chapter and pray for wisdom and maybe God will reveal it to you. I just don't know.]
16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaks great swelling words, holding men in admiration for the sake of advantage.
Mockers in the Last Time
17 But you, beloved, remember the words which were spoken before by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
19 These are they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
Be Strong in the Love of God
20 But you, beloved, building up yourselves in your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit,
21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
22 And on some have compassion, making a difference:
23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
Doxology
24 Now unto him who is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
25 To the only wise God our Savior, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and forever. Amen.
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