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zander:
Hi folks

I felt i should let you know, in case anyone was wondering (yeah gosh i think i must be v.popular  ;D ), that i am merely an observer on this site from time to time now and dont come here as often or place as much input.  I am having some trouble at the moment regarding relationship with God etc.  I understand it all, but feel very let down by him.

Well i wish you all welll

Z

mongoose:
Zander,  Thanks for letting us know.  I was wondering about you and have been praying for you.  We all go through these things from time to time I think.  When and if you're up to it and He leads you back to posting more, we'd love to hear from you again.

Peace and love to you in Christ,

mongoose

longhorn:
I know how you feel "Z", God is looking more and more like a failure and no more in control than any other of the man made gods.  Kinda sad, but true.  Oh well, there's always another God waiting to try his luck.

Longhorn

hillsbororiver:
Zander,

Thank you for checking in, you have been missed here. mongoose is right on as we all DO go through these periods from time to time, "who knows the mind of God?" All we can do is have faith in His purpose and methods. We are assured that "He chastises those whom He loves" and these trials and tribulations refine us and purify us, making us into His Sons & Daughters, soon it will all be more than worth it, this life is but a vapor.

His Peace to you Brother,

Joe

From Lake of Fire Part VI;

 "Yea, and ALL that will live godly in Christ Jesus [as a new and different creature] SHALL SUFFER PERSECUTION." (II Tim. 3:12). This is not just a possibility; it is an absolute PROMISE.

"Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through MUCH TRIBULATION [pressure, afflictions] enter into the kingdom of God" (Acts 14:22).

"For if we would JUDGE OURSELVES, we should not be judged. But when we ARE JUDGED, we are CHASTENED [Greek: paideuo, to train, educate, discipline, punish, chastise, instruct, learn, and teach] of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world [at the great white throne judgment]" (I Cor. 11:31-32).

"And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks unto you as unto children, My Son, despise not you the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of Him. For whom the Lord loves He CHASTENS [Prov. 13:24] AND SCOURGES [see I Pet. 5:9] EVERY SON WHOM HE RECEIVES. But if you be without chastisement, whereof ALL are partakers, then are you ********, and not sons" (Heb. 12:5-8). "Every man’s work shall be made manifest; for the day shall declare it, because it shall be REVEALED BY FIRE; and the fire shall try EVERY MAN’S WORK of what sort it is" (I Cor. 3;13).

"Fear NONE of those things which you shall suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that you may be tried; and you shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give you a CROWN OF LIFE" (Rev. 2:10). "To him that overcomes will I give to eat of the TREE OF LIFE [eternal, immortal life]" (Rev. 2:7), "He that overcomes shall not be hurt of the second death" (Rev. 2:11), "And he that overcomes, and keeps my works unto the end, to him will I give POWER OVER THE NATIONS" (Rev. 2;26), "He that overcomes, the same shall be clothed in white raiment [righteousness] and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life [Christ is the book of life] but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels" (Rev. 3:5), "Him that overcomes will I make a PILLAR [a main and vital support in the very government of Almighty God] IN THE TEMPLE OF MY GOD…" (Rev. 3:12), "To him that overcomes will I grant to SIT WITH ME IN MY THRONE, even as I also overcame [see John 16:33], and am set down with My Father in His throne" (Rev. 3:21).

There we have a very brief overview of the life of a believer. Is it not obvious that the life of a believer consists of a whole lot more than just "believing" that Jesus is the Christ? God has bigger plans for the human race than just "saving" them. God can "save" chickens, but God doesn’t want chickens for sons! God wants sons that are PERFECT as He is perfect! Wouldn’t you all agree that becoming perfect might just require a whole lot more than singing gospel music once a week? Perfection requires many things that only God can perform in our lives. We are, after all, His workmanship, His achievement. Having ALL OUR WORKS tried in the fire of His Holy Spirit is no small part of becoming perfect.

You can read the entire article here;

http://bible-truths.com/lake6.html

hillsbororiver:

--- Quote from: longhorn on July 26, 2006, 10:38:03 AM ---I know how you feel "Z", God is looking more and more like a failure and no more in control than any other of the man made gods.  Kinda sad, but true.  Oh well, there's always another God waiting to try his luck.

Longhorn

--- End quote ---

Longhorn,

A failure by whose standards? Our weak and ever changing perceptions? Reread the article posted above and tell me what it means to you, I have experienced what you are going through and it is not pleasant, indeed it was never promised to be a day in the park, but the ultimate conclusion is promised to be more wonderful than anything we are capable of imagining.

I feel for you Brother,

Joe

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