> Introductions, Announcements, and More of Ray's Teachings
Jesus--God's first creation--HOW/WHO?
onelovedread:
Here we go again.
A timely reminder:
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,14757.msg130521.html#msg130521
We all have our individual, pet views, but ultimatelythe truth will be revealed.
Blessings
theophilus:
--- Quote from: Game Over on January 04, 2013, 01:17:38 PM ---Hey Theophilus,
Welcome.
That creed is difficult to understand because it's difficult to believe. I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, so here's my two cents:
I Believe that the Holy Scriptures are God's Authorized Biography, and
What's the definition of biography: An account of someone's life written by someone else.
Best I can figure, this simply means God inspired people to write the old or the new testament scriptures. God didn't come down himself and write them. I'm not sure who chiseled the ten commandments on stone tablets, or the writing on the wall, though. I'm sure someone did it; I just don't know who actually did the chiseling/writing.
I Believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is God's Authorized Autobiography
What's the definition of autobiography: An account of a person's life written by that person.
Jesus Christ didn't personally write the scriptures. So what does that mean? He was given authority to tell the whole world what God the Father is all about. He did that in the life that he personally lived here on earth 2000 years ago, and continues to, as He does the works of the Father through the hearts of all believers.
Ray said, you won't understand anything until you begin to obey God. Just obey Him, follow Him, and it will become abundantly clear what Ray means.
I hope that helps.
Gina
--- End quote ---
Thank you for your input Gina. Something to think about indeed.
I've run into several bible verses that lead me to believe that:
1. Elohim is a divine family
2. We are their offspring
3. Jesus is the firstborn
4. Jesus is our elder brother and isn't ashamed to call us brothers
5. Jesus and us have the same father
6. We are being shaped in the image of Christ
7. We were created in God (Elohim)'s image: male and female
One such passage is Hebrews 2:8b-12
In subjecting everything to him, he left nothing unsubjected to him. However, at present, we don’t see everything subjected to him — at least, not yet. 9 But we do see Yeshua — who indeed was made for a little while lower than the angels — now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by God’s grace he might taste death for all humanity. 10 For in bringing many sons to glory, it was only fitting that God, the Creator and Preserver of everything, should bring the Initiator of their deliverance to the goal through sufferings. 11 For both Yeshua, who sets people apart for God, and the ones being set apart have a common origin — this is why he is not ashamed to call them brothers 12 when he says,
“I will proclaim your name to my brothers;
in the midst of the congregation I will sing your praise.”
Since my past conviction was trinitarian, I had my reservations when reading these passages when I was much younger. But the verses stuck with me. I might be wrong, but this is what I seem to get from my reading. You might not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but at least you are in the drawer! I'm not even in the kitchen! I'm in the trash can. Not sharp at all--in fact, slow.
Thank you all and God bless you always.
Gina:
ha, Well, I know for a fact internet connections can't be gotten in a trash can. Maybe you're in the trash can in the kitchen? hehe Just kidding. ;D
I wouldn't want to puff you up but from the looks of things, you're observations are sound and you asked some very good questions. At least you're being honest. That's good enough for me.
theophilus:
Thank you for your advice. But the more we learn about our Father and his plans, the more we realize that we haven't even begun to scratch the surface. I don't believe we will fully apprehend God in this lifetime.
Gina:
There's absolutely no way to completely comprehend a being Who has been around since time immemorial in the span of a short lifetime. And if you say you haven't begun to scratch the surface, then you probably haven't.
And with that, I'm out. All the best to you, Theo. :)
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