> General Discussions
As It Was In the Days of Noah - Luke 17:26
eggi:
--- Quote from: zvezda on December 03, 2012, 03:17:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: eggi on December 03, 2012, 02:52:23 PM ---
So, not GIVEN in marriage, but GIVING.
Luke 17:28 gives us more information, but non of these things are sins, are they? The verse mentions nothing about "given in marriage":
"Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;"
This, in my opinion, supports what Dave said: "Business as usual".
--- End quote ---
but if this is just "Business as usual", simply saying "they married" is good enough to make the point, no need to say "given/giving in marriage", right?
--- End quote ---
Hi zvezda,
I was referring to Luke 17:28, although you are right; it IS connected to verse 27. :) But verse 28 is referring to the days of Lot and it doesn't mention anything about being given in marriage. That was my point, there is nothing in that verse that hasn't been done throughout history. Or am I wrong?
God bless you,
Eirik
eggi:
--- Quote from: Levy on December 03, 2012, 03:24:08 PM ---Nice, thanks Eirik. But I meant if the Greek word/suffix/etc used for they has any gender conotation.
--- End quote ---
Hi Levy,
Yeah, I know that's what you meant. I wasn't able to find any information on the gender of it. It seems that Greek doesn't have the gender in the plural, but I've been wrong before, and I could be wrong about this too! :)
This is from the Concordant Interlinear:
exegamizonto
exegamizonto
G1547
vi Impf Pas 3 Pl
THEY-OUT-MARRYizED
they-gave-in-marriage
I think what makes it more complicated here is that this is a verb... and the fact that this is Greek to me...! :P
God bless you,
Eirik
zvezda:
--- Quote from: Levy on December 03, 2012, 03:26:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: zvezda on December 03, 2012, 02:41:16 PM ---Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Mark 12:25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
God refers to the angels as male only, something to think about....
--- End quote ---
How do you know God only refers to them as male only?
--- End quote ---
it was briefly discussed before, see http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php?topic=3899.20
zvezda:
--- Quote from: eggi on December 03, 2012, 03:34:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: zvezda on December 03, 2012, 03:17:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: eggi on December 03, 2012, 02:52:23 PM ---
So, not GIVEN in marriage, but GIVING.
Luke 17:28 gives us more information, but non of these things are sins, are they? The verse mentions nothing about "given in marriage":
"Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;"
This, in my opinion, supports what Dave said: "Business as usual".
--- End quote ---
but if this is just "Business as usual", simply saying "they married" is good enough to make the point, no need to say "given/giving in marriage", right?
--- End quote ---
Hi zvezda,
I was referring to Luke 17:28, although you are right; it IS connected to verse 27. :) But verse 28 is referring to the days of Lot and it doesn't mention anything about being given in marriage. That was my point, there is nothing in that verse that hasn't been done throughout history. Or am I wrong?
God bless you,
Eirik
--- End quote ---
Hi Erik, no, you are not wrong, I think I misquoted your post, sorry :P
I was just trying to say that it doesn't matter if the translation should be GIVEN or GIVING in marriage, simply saying they married should be good enough. :)
eggi:
--- Quote from: zvezda on December 03, 2012, 04:07:36 PM ---Hi Erik, no, you are not wrong, I think I misquoted your post, sorry :P
I was just trying to say that it doesn't matter if the translation should be GIVEN or GIVING in marriage, simply saying they married should be good enough. :)
--- End quote ---
Hi again zvezda,
It should be enough if you want to be saying: "They" (men and women) married." But can we rule out the possibility that it's referring to men first, and then women? "They (the men) married, and they (the women) were given in marriage."
The same wording appears in Matthew 22:30, Mark 12:25 and Luke 20:34-35. In those verses it seems to refer to men first and then women. Or does it say that the standard is that both women and men are marrying and being giving in marriage? What then about what Jesus says in Luke 20:34?:
And Jesus answering said to them, 'The sons of this age do marry and are given in marriage...[]
The sons refer only to men? Or to men and women? Who marries and who are given in marriage?
I'm not sure, just trying to think out loud, since this subject caught my attention for some reason. Well I'm out of ideas. :)
God bless you,
Eirik
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version