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As It Was In the Days of Noah - Luke 17:26
levycarneiro:
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--- Quote from: Levy on December 03, 2012, 03:26:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: zvezda on December 03, 2012, 02:41:16 PM ---Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Mark 12:25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
God refers to the angels as male only, something to think about....
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How do you know God only refers to them as male only?
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it was briefly discussed before, see http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php?topic=3899.20
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Hey, thanks! I will check it out.
God bless
levycarneiro:
--- Quote from: eggi on December 03, 2012, 03:52:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: Levy on December 03, 2012, 03:24:08 PM ---Nice, thanks Eirik. But I meant if the Greek word/suffix/etc used for they has any gender conotation.
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Hi Levy,
Yeah, I know that's what you meant. I wasn't able to find any information on the gender of it. It seems that Greek doesn't have the gender in the plural, but I've been wrong before, and I could be wrong about this too! :)
This is from the Concordant Interlinear:
exegamizonto
exegamizonto
G1547
vi Impf Pas 3 Pl
THEY-OUT-MARRYizED
they-gave-in-marriage
I think what makes it more complicated here is that this is a verb... and the fact that this is Greek to me...! :P
God bless you,
Eirik
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Hehe thanks man
zvezda:
--- Quote from: eggi on December 03, 2012, 04:24:36 PM ---Hi again zvezda,
It should be enough if you want to be saying: "They" (men and women) married." But can we rule out the possibility that it's referring to men first, and then women? "They (the men) married, and they (the women) were given in marriage."
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Hi Erik, both are possible, just that if this verse is trying to say "business as usual", why did God choose the cumbersome way to describe it while He could simply say "they married"? I guess we just don't know for sure. :P
--- Quote ---The same wording appears in Matthew 22:30, Mark 12:25 and Luke 20:34-35. In those verses it seems to refer to men first and then women. Or does it say that the standard is that both women and men are marrying and being giving in marriage?
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see my previous post, God refers to the angels as male only, just something to think about.
--- Quote ---What then about what Jesus says in Luke 20:34?:
And Jesus answering said to them, 'The sons of this age do marry and are given in marriage...[]
The sons refer only to men? Or to men and women? Who marries and who are given in marriage?
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the word "sons" (huios) does refer to men:
huios: a son
Original Word: υἱός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: huios
Phonetic Spelling: (hwee-os')
Short Definition: a son, descendent
Definition: a son, descendent.
--- Quote ---Well I'm out of ideas. :)
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me too :P ;D
indianabob:
Hi folks,
Couple of small points to consider;
1. They were marrying: young persons were being officially joined together as couples.
2. and giving in marriage: parents were giving, giving permission or giving their blessings or making long term or property contracts between families involving their children etc. all according to the existing culture.
All these normal things were being done in normal fashion with no thought by the people of any type of catastrophe coming upon the society because there was no warning.
Now contrast this with what God did in Nineveh where He sent Jonah to warn the leaders and the people to repent and they did repent out of fear of God's wrath.
Who is to say that Sodom was worse than Nineveh? What is the overarching lesson?
Aren't these just examples for the benefit of those upon whom the end times shall come?
As well as lessons for the Israelites concerning how God deals with sin?
A main point may be that this all happened in the area where God's chosen people were living. Doesn't Bible history necessarily relate to God dealing with His chosen and aren't there multiple other events that take place in history that are not recorded in scripture expressly because they do not relate to God's chosen?
I think it reasonable to believe that there were other natural catastrophes such as earthquakes and floods that didn't directly affect God's people or provide a lesson to them.
Hope this helps a little, Indiana bob
Dennis Vogel:
As I recall our conversation was about the tribulations in the end time and also what seems to be a normal lifestyle with getting married, etc. How can both be true at the same time? Ray never told me if he figured it out.
But it could be that these normal lifestyles continue up until the tribulations begin?
Or it could be that "given in marriage" describes the lifestyles in the end time?
Don't know.
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