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As It Was In the Days of Noah - Luke 17:26
Gina:
Good catch Claudia. My point in saying that was because if gay marriage were the issue, then certainly Jesus would have mentioned marriages concerning the days of Lot -- because of the obvious. But since He didn't mention it with regards to the days of Lot, it be can be deduced that gay marriage isn't the issue. Hopefully that makes sense now.
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zvezda:
Just some thoughts about the different things Jesus mentioned for the days of Noah and days of Lot -
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the sin of Sodom (i.e. the days of Lot):
Ezekiel 16:49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
all the sins mentioned in Ezekiel are not related to marriages, maybe that's why Jesus didn't mention marriages for the days of Lot?
their sins were "pride, fulness of bread", sounds like they were wealthy, so it makes sense that Jesus said they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built.
Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
they probably did commit the sin of homosexuality (or whatever "going after strange flesh" means), but if they didn't legalize gay marriage, then there's no reason for Jesus to mention marriages, is there?
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the days of Noah:
Genesis 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Genesis 6:11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
Genesis 6:12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
they were having evil thoughts continually, does that mean they were sinning when they were eating, drinking, getting married, giving in marriages? (it's sort of like what people are doing in Las Vegas - eating, drinking, getting married impulsively)
Jesus didn't mention they bought, they sold, they planted, they built, is it because the earth also was corrupt and filled with violence (genesis 6:11) that they could hardly do those things?
--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on December 04, 2012, 09:56:03 AM ---As I recall our conversation was about the tribulations in the end time and also what seems to be a normal lifestyle with getting married, etc. How can both be true at the same time? Ray never told me if he figured it out.
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same question for the days of Noah, the earth also was corrupt and filled with violence (genesis 6:11), it looks like a war zone to me, how could they still have a normal lifestyle? don't know either.
chav:
Hi this is taken from Johnathan Mitchell's version
26. "Also, correspondingly as (just as; accordingly as) it was birthed (happened; occurred) within the days of Noah, in this way (thus) it will also be – within the days of the Son of the Man:
27. "they were eating, they continued drinking, they kept on marrying, they were habitually given (or: taken out) in marriage – until which day Noah entered into the ark, and then the down-washing (flood; cataclysm) came and destroyed them all.
I have looked at several translations and I think any link with gay marriage appears pretty tenuous
Dave
Dennis Vogel:
Concordant: "They ate, they drank, they married, they took out in marriage, until the day on which Noah entered into the ark, and the deluge came and destroys them all."
King James: "They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all."
Strong's says "married" could be either sex, so "wives" was added (Concordant is correct).
But the second "marriage" is applied only to daughters.
There could be a little wiggle room, but probably not.
rsks:
That's how I took it too Dave in Tennessee. It seems all will be a surprise to the world when Christ comes back. "Like a thief in the night".
Nice thread guys. Lot's to think about. I kinda suspect like Ray, that the second given, has a special meaning behind it.
Thanks everyone.
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