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paulfisher:
Let me rephrase... the authors of the New Testament preached the doctrine of Christ, in their person to others, who were called the saints. When they wrote these letters were they simply expounding on doctrine already taught by them, in person, to the saints, or was ANY NEW doctrine brought forth in any of these letters? The answer will basically be a "yes" they were simply expounding on doctrine already taught by them in person or "yes" they taught new doctrine in these letters (with hopefully a reference to the new doctrine).

Thank you all for your time and answers,

Paul

Ps. I am assuming that NO new doctrine was taught in any of the letters yet I am also aware of the saying that "Assumption is the mother of all mistakes", so, I just want to make sure that no new doctrine was taught or mentioned in these letters, so I can put that "to rest" mentally.

Dave in Tenn:
Still having trouble understanding, but I came across this passage that may (or may not) speak to the question as an example.


1Pe 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Who, according to His vast mercy, regenerates us into a living expectation, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from among the dead,
1Pe 1:4 for the enjoyment of an allotment incorruptible and undefiled and unfading, kept in the heavens for you,
1Pe 1:5 who are garrisoned by the power of God, through faith, for salvation ready to be revealed in the last era,
1Pe 1:6 in which you are exulting; briefly at present, if it must be, being sorrowed by various trials,
1Pe 1:7 that the testing of your faith, much more precious than gold which is perishing, yet, being tested by fire, may be found for applause and glory and honor at the unveiling of Jesus Christ,
1Pe 1:8 Whom, not perceiving, you are loving; in Whom, not seeing at present, yet believing, you are exulting with joy unspeakable and glorious,
1Pe 1:9 being requited with the consummation of your faith, the salvation of your souls."
1Pe 1:10 Concerning which salvation the prophets seek out and search out, who prophesy concerning the grace which is for you,
1Pe 1:11 searching into what or what manner of era the spirit of Christ in them made evident, when testifying beforehand to the sufferings pertaining to Christ and the glories after these."
1Pe 1:12 To whom it was revealed that, not to themselves, but to you they dispensed them, of which you were now informed through those who are bringing the evangel to you by holy spirit dispatched from heaven, into which messengers are yearning to peer."
1Pe 1:13 Wherefore, girding up the loins of your comprehension, being sober, expect perfectly the grace which is being brought to you at the unveiling of Jesus Christ."

Certainly things happened recorded in the NT scriptures that are 'new'.  I guess I am stuck on the definition of 'doctrine'. 

Rex8:

Are you asking... is what the apostles wrote in the epistles any MORE than what they taught verbally in person?

I don't see how it would be possible to verify that.The only way would to be an eye witness or there was a ....written account .

This relates  to the question about binding and loosing.God is "writing" (not literally) on our heart.Which means he is communicating "directly" with us.The priest is christ ... the anointing...christ in you..BEING formed...salvation.

The doctrines of men is the crux of all the confusion (babylon) that has been going on for millinea.The prime examples of confusion and deafness was Israel.God delivered them out of Egypt( symbolic of the physical world) to communicate (commune) with them at Mt. Sinai...and they would not listen but wanted a priest...Moses(God gave them Aaron the idol maker).So instead of writing on their hearts in communion he wrote his word (obviously not all of them)in stone.

The only thing that has changed is we CAN hear God and have communion...yet many don't because they still want a priest just as the Israel did because of the hardness of their heart.Religion is much more desirable to  the carnal mind.They THINK they can control that and pay lip service to God( teach the doctrines of men).

This deafness is littered throughout human history.ALL caused by God who knows mans heart is dust and GOD is "changing" it.Some are wayside soil and don' receive the word at all.Others receive it gladly but they don't hear for long.Others grow in hearing but get choked by thistles and thorns(self righteousness of knowledge of "the word").The fertile soil hears it and grows and produces fruit that multiplies.

I would bet ALL church folks think they are fertile soil..and of course they would be VERY wrong.They will argue with their bible thumping on the table and on anything within earshot that "THEY KNOW THE WORD OF GOD!!!"....yet Paul says the law is a schoolmaster.After he lays out his self righteous pedigree as a Jew and Pharisee who has kept the Law and is blameless he counts it ALL as dung.

Is that not a HUGE clue of how this works.He didn't say the scriptures were dung as many who want to twists words would say..... he said all he LEARNED he counted as  dung...futility ... VANITY OF VANITY  in relation to communion with God.

Paul preached one thing ...Yahshua crucified and resurrected. The Father is the only teacher.... the  unveiler.Does he "use" men ..yes...as schoolmasters but that is not the end game.Our relationship is to be... Abba Father..not to a priest.Are the scriptures sin... GOD forbid! they are for a purpose WAY beyond what we imagine or know.But the words are babylon(religious doctrines of men) to those whose ears cannot hear....

God is not doctrine that is to be dissected and vivisected to death.Is it any wonder the vast disagreement of those the "claim" to know God is about the meaning of words of DOCTRINE.... it's the foolishness of men....and the outcome of disseminating it is always the same...more foolishness.

It ain't rocket surgery.God talks we listen..or not...this is the love of God that we "obey" (hear) his commandments(his will) and it IS NOT burdensome.Billions of folks have and do see doctrine in that ..I see none.EVERYTHING God communicates is hearing then doing.

Ian 155:
I think I get what you are asking,

The word is the same yesterday today and dare I say for ever, they expounded as did Christ to the two on the way to emmaus they were given the ability to see OT scripture with their spiritual eyes and then relayed the gospel of the kingdom via letters.

And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.

The only gospel of the kingdom is the spiritual gospel and they became aware by revelation ie Baptism,circumcision,Lords supper etc these were now spiritual not physical

thewatchman:
Even if all truth was taught, which I do not believe as the patriarchs of old looked forward to this time, so there should be some new revelation as there is the former rain to establish the seed and the latter to bring in the harvest, much of it has been forgotten. So there are plenty of new things to learn. IMO  8)

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