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Gina:
Indeed. Children (as well as adults) need and like boundaries. Otherwise we feel lost and out of control.
I haven't yet begun to envy the churched.
Rhys 🕊:
--- Quote from: " Shorty " on February 20, 2013, 06:44:20 PM ---Indeed. Children (as well as adults) need and like boundaries. Otherwise we feel lost and out of control.
I haven't yet begun to envy the churched.
--- End quote ---
Feeling lost and out of control is something I have experienced a lot. Knowing my boundaries seems to be quite a challenge, well at least it is to me. I like this passage.
Act 17:26 And He has made all nations of men of one blood to dwell on all the face of the earth, ordaining fore-appointed seasons and boundaries of their dwelling,
Act 17:27 to seek the Lord, if perhaps they might feel after Him and find Him, though indeed He is not far from each one of us.
I recall someone once talking to me about boundaries but I didn’t understand what they were talking about. But then how do you understand if you don’t truly know God. I’ve been in the past rather hurt by others and then finding myself rather overwhelmed and left wondering where are my boundaries to allow myself from not being so hurt. I guess I have found over the years that I need to humble myself and accept that God is indeed in control of every aspect of my life.
John 8:36 Therefore if the Son shall make you free, you shall be free indeed.
It’s Christ that makes us free in His time and like the verses in Acts above God has fore-appointed our seasons and boundaries. God is not confined by the boundaries and limitations of simple man and that’s what I am. How do I know what the Lord has in store for me and what I should do, well I don’t know and I find myself doubting myself and being confused.
I think as Dennis says we are told to endure and this isn’t easy for me. Not only that we need to overcome, also not easy. I feel one thing that has helped me a lot recently after God has set me free with His truth is learning to rest in Him. Maybe I need to see this truth more instead of trying to run to and fro trying to do what God wants. I guess I want to please the Lord but in my own strength I will only fail. The following verses suggest the place that we should all desire to be in.
Mat 11:28 Come to Me all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Mat 11:29 Take My yoke on you and learn of Me, for I am meek and lowly in heart, and you shall find rest to your souls.
Greg, Just trust in the Lord when you are feeling in distress, He loves and cares for you. He is our Father and we are His children. Greg your own strength is going to fail you as it has for me so many painful times. Rest in Him, He knows what He is doing. He will give you the rest you need and the ability to get back up again at the right time. He has done it for me.
This isn’t easy for me and I’m sure this is the case for all of us. The church has no idea what it’s about to go through these fiery trials and nor did I when I was there. I think they are blissfully ignorant of the truth, going along with whatever is happening instead of getting on there knees and truly humbling themselves. Well God has brought me down so many times to see His truth. I think for me I need to learn to stop fighting Him over so many things in my life and simply come to Him and find rest.
I still get many things that I beat myself up about. But I'm learning and it's a process in His time. I don't like how long it takes but He knows how long it will take. Trust Him.
Rhys
Dennis Vogel:
--- Quote from: " Shorty " on February 20, 2013, 06:44:20 PM ---Indeed. Children (as well as adults) need and like boundaries. Otherwise we feel lost and out of control.
I haven't yet begun to envy the churched.
--- End quote ---
I think we are held to a higher standard than church people and it requires us to obey in our hearts and not just in deeds. And that means we will not get away with anything for the duration of our lives. That correction may come early in life or later. But we will learn and eventually do what's right because it is in our hearts (I'm not saying we will die perfect) and not out of fear.
Church people believe they are saved because of their rituals and superstitions. They are ignorant of their rotten heart.
I'm not saying church people do not suffer, because they do. I'm saying God is not yet showing them what He has reveled to us and they are not striving as hard as we are driven to by Almighty God.
Gina:
--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on February 21, 2013, 12:49:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: " Shorty " on February 20, 2013, 06:44:20 PM ---Indeed. Children (as well as adults) need and like boundaries. Otherwise we feel lost and out of control.
I haven't yet begun to envy the churched.
--- End quote ---
I think we are held to a higher standard than church people and it requires us to obey in our hearts and not just in deeds. And that means we will not get away with anything for the duration of our lives. That correction may come early in life or later. But we will learn and eventually do what's right because it is in our hearts (I'm not saying we will die perfect) and not out of fear.
Church people believe they are saved because of their rituals and superstitions. They are ignorant of their rotten heart.
I'm not saying church people do not suffer, because they do. I'm saying God is not yet showing them what He has reveled to us and they are not striving as hard as we are driven to by Almighty God.
--- End quote ---
Which is precisely why I don't envy them. :) (Not yet, not ever.)
Dennis Vogel:
All I'm saying Gina is they are not troubled by what's inside themselves. But we are constantly reminded.
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