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what did Christ die for ?
gerard_dsouza:
Hi Dennis,
You mentioned that even animals have a spirit as that gives life. What happens to that spirit, does it go to God or dies?
dodrill:
Jesus is the grain of wheat - unless the grain dies it remains alone
First the natural then the spiritual - He died so He would not be alone and also to bring much fruit (us all :)
John 12:24
24 Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit.
darren:
I see many,many posts by many people. many agree that Jesus died in order to show how much He loved and loves us. Please show me 1,2scripture that states this is whyJesus died for mankind. one of the most commom is John 15;13. I read this scripture many times and i do not see where this scripture states that this is why Jesus died for mankind. Scripture states that 15:12 This is My commandment , that you love one and other as I have loved you. 15:13 greater love has no one like this, than to lay down ones life for his friends. This commandment does not say or states this is why Jesus died for mankind. However it surely tels us Jesus loves us and what a beautifull commandment.
Kat:
Hi Darren, surely you did not forget about John 3:16 ;)
John 3:16 For God so loved (loves) the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
v. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
1John 4:9 In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him
v. 10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
Rom 5:8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Eph 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved (loves) us,
v. 5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),
2Co 5:14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
2Co 5:14 Whatever we do, it is because Christ's love controls us. Since we believe that Christ died for everyone, we also believe that we have all died to the old life we used to live. (NLT)
Rom 8:32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall bring a charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies.
34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written:
"For Your sake we are killed all day long;
We are accounted as sheep for the slaughter."
37 Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved (loves) us.
Mercy, peace and love
Kat
microlink:
Very thoughtful response from Dennis V. Thanks.
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