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Andrea Yates
ciy:
Last night was a show updating and going into more depth of the Andrea Yates trial (the woman that killed her 5 children in a bathtub) She was found innocent by reason of insanity. The reason she killed her 5 children was because she believed that they were going to turn away from God as adults so she wanted to kill them before they reached the age of accountability thereby assuring that they would not go to hell.
This is really powerful to me. If all the christian mothers truly believed what the general doctrine of most churches is and they really loved their children, they would all be doing what Andrea Yates did. Do you all see this? If christians could really fathom what they say they believe and compare living in this world to what they believe living in heaven for an eternity is, then throw in what they say they believe hell is then all the good mothers would do what Andrea Yates did. The reality of this is mindboggling.
Think now what happens if Andrea Yates comes to the real truth and finds out there is no eternal hell. There was no hell to save her children from. Or better yet what if she had known the truth then there would be 5 live children today.
This is so simple, powerful, and clean cut to me. Why did I not see it years ago? Only God could blind me from a truth this simple.
Hope you see this. It matters to people what society believes the truth is. At the same time, only God can reveal this truth.
CIY
mongoose:
ciy,
I watched that show last night and thought the same thing. Actually I've been confused for several years about people who claim to love their neighbors, who believe in an endless torment in hell, and dont' seem to care about converting anyone. And who have kids and are "oh well, I'll pray that they change". If an eternal burning in hell were the actual result of not "being saved" and there was an "age of accountability", the I would think that many mothers would do what Andrea Yates did. Really, it's the only thing that would make sense...you love you kids, you don't want them to suffer in hell, so you murder them...yes, you yourself go to hell for that but it is a sacrifice to save your kids. And yet, most people who believe in hell, even celebrate it, don't do this. Do they actually enjoy the thought of their loved ones, their friends, their children suffering for all eternity? I can't fathom that. If you really believed this doctrine and you really loved people around you, how could you ever sleep for the pain and fear that they would be lost? Why are these people not doing everything to "save" those around them? It makes me wonder...do they actually not believe in hell (or try to pretend it doesn't exist...wouldn't that be ironic, the belief is wrong and the pretend is right....) or do they like being part of some "exclusive" club and relish the idea that others are going to suffer for not being in the "in crowd"? Unbelievable.
--- Quote from: ciy on July 28, 2006, 11:36:15 AM ---This is so simple, powerful, and clean cut to me. Why did I not see it years ago? Only God could blind me from a truth this simple.
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So true.
mongoose
Sorin:
Yet another reason why I absolutely hate Christianity. Look what it does to people. She killed her children in vain.
buddyjc:
I read a book called 'Heaven' by Randy Alcorn, and in the book Randy said that Satan does not want us to believe in hell because he wants us to be 'unmotivated' to preach the gospel. I thought back to my seminary days when we were going through evangelism training. They would have a 'soul winning' seminar and then every week go out and knock on doors. There would be close to a thousand people the first week, but then every week after the numbers dwindled to practically nothing. Now that I have seen the truth, I look at it and say, 'Looks like they are already unmotivated to preach the gospel, and they believe in hell.' Your right Ciy, if these Christians really believe in hell they should be very concerned for their neighbors and family, but they don't really seem to care.
Love to All,
Brian
Sorin:
--- Quote from: bobbys43 ---Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
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I've a challenge for you...get Christians to actually believe that verse. :D ;)
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