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I think I have lost my faith in God

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thewatchman:
Everyone loses heart at sometime Jase. It's wonderful to have that naive idealistic faith. There's a safety in it. Just like when you first learn your parents are not perfect, so it is a jolt to realize how much contraversy there is in christianity. For me, what has kept me grounded is the way God has changed me. In spite of everything around me, no matter what people say, it always comes back to our personal experiences. If God has worked something in your life, then hold onto it. You will come out of it. That is how faith is built. In the tough times.

Rex8:
You probably aren't going to like this response .Gods purpose is to ween you off the scriptures and religion.Paul clearly states the scriptures are a  schoolmaster .and yes ...I understand the irony of that statement yet that is how God does things.

EVERYTHING is the infinite process of growth...salvation..deliverance.The letter kills ..the spirit is life.Yahshua told the pharisees "you search the scripture thinking that in them you have life yet you fail to come to me whom they are written".
They sought God in all the wrong ways.. in  books of what is written...yet it is through the books(knowledge) that we meet God...but not know God.It is no coincidence that the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil was the catalyst of separation.

God cast the whole world into Babylon..the confusion of language ... and has not unconfused it yet.The written word is half of the two edged sword  ...the half that kills..the spirit is life.The spirit life is not alive until the letter crucifies you and you are crucified to it.

Yahshua never admonished the disciple to study the scriptures.He did not go off by himself to study the scriptures so he could hear the Fathers will.Everything Yahshua  did he "heard" from the Father.When Peter made the proclamation you are The Christ the Son of God and Yahshua told him flesh and blood (written or spoken words) have not revealed that to you but my Father...THAT is the keys to the kingdom..revelation from the Father..THAT is communion..being in the TRUE Holy of Holies ...not the one with the ark of the covenant ... a box ... God is showing he can't be contained in that box.God is not the Ten commandments....God is not the manna they ate in the wilderness ..the anointing is not in Aarons rod...It is GOD...living in YOU.In your midst.The Kingdom of God comes WITHOUT observation.

Are the scriptures sin..God forbid! they serve a purpose...  The scriptures are a schoolmaster that lead us to the anointing (christ) when we have grown to be a man we no longer do things as a child...we become sons and heirs.

One of the  first steps is being weened off of teachers.Paul and Apollos experienced the fallout from teacher worshipers.Their disciples begin to worship them as Yahshua.Thinking THEY had the words of life.He clearly told them they didn't save them they were messengers at best.Paul was extremely flawed.He was the chiefest of sinners YET he had a religious pedigree that he rattled off as a Pharisee born of the tribe of Benjamin circumcised on the 8th day BLAMELESS in the law(highly studied)..and yet  then proclaimed he counted it  ALL DUNG in comparison to his communion with Yahshua in the anointing.

We ALL must shed our baby skin to grow up.We will cling to our parents until we die to them in immaturity  to be reborn as mature and independent.Contrary to popular religious belief salvation is infinite.We are ALWAYS growing an always will.That is part of the immaturity to think that once we have been "given"(and most assuredly it is given") a few basic doctrines like the myth of hell,salvation for all,etc etc....we have matured....that is a sign of immaturity... adolescent thinking they have grown enough and are now men.

We will ALL be made naked and  stripped of our fig leaf from the tree of knowledge of good and evil until we are clothed with maturity by the tree of Life (the spirit)but the process STILL continues on toward the fullness in the anointing (christ).It is all the process of salvation.EVERYTHING is the salvation of God (Yahshua) and always WILL be.

Losing your faith in a God that doesn't exist is part of the process.A few "believed"(and the many still do)  in the God "of love" who was going to torture the majority of humanity in eternal hell but ALL will know that is a false God.That is an "obvious" truth...  a shallow truth of the deep things of God.Until someone gets past the basics..   they can't get the DEEP .All false doctrines of God must die until all that is left is God and only God.

The beauty is GOD is doing it all...and every new revelation from the Father  is bigger than the previous but not always obvious.It is not a leap of faith it is  GIANT STEPS...so yes losing "your " faith is a good thing.We are "being" saved by grace THROUGH faith NOT of our own ....it is GODS faith.

God uses the most unorthodox methods man wouldn't use to shake up our false world of religion.Babylon is not so easily escaped...especially when someone thinks that are not in it anymore.The good thing is you are aware something is happening.The opposite is worse...best of luck in the recovery....

Rhys 🕊:
Hi Space

So I thought a lot about what you said and so I asked myself why do I believe and why am I here now. So I pretty much grew up in church and knew of Him but didn’t know Him, till certain events led me to cry out to Him and I experienced His life in me and I couldn’t deny that. So I have some good times in Him and tough times. I use to despise God for what He was doing in me but I knew it was Him, so I fought against Him only to lose every time. Like this verse says

Proverbs 14:12 There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way to death.

That’s what I was getting for all my efforts. I’m saying to God I know what it is right so why don’t you do this, it seems to make sense to me but God says No Rhys. I’m glad He did and still does as it only leads to death. So many times I think well I’m doing this only to find nothing there for me, just a whole lot of emptiness with a pointless existence. He draws me to a place where I have to surrender to Him and say Sorry Lord I tried doing it my way and it just doesn’t work and I just give up so show me Lord and He does. Here is another verse that I love:


Psalm 16:11 You make known to me the path of life; in your presence there is fullness of joy; at your right hand are pleasures forevermore.

Thank God He has showed me the error of my ways and how to begin to live life in a more blessed way. Now I can spend time with You and experience your joy even through the hardships.


James 1: 2-4 Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds, for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.

He is working in me now through these trials and I’m beginning to count it all for joy as I see it’s His loving hand guiding me and perfecting me. I wonder so many times what’s going on here Lord and why me and I see he is doing His work in His time on me and we all have our time, that’s in His hands. You know I cry too much going through this and I don’t cry for nothing.

So I close with this verse because I’m weak and completely helpless without Him. I’ve got nowhere else to turn. I tried it my way and failed.


2Co 12:9  And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
2Co 12:10  Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.

God bless you my friend. I feel for where you are at and pray the Lord will show you the way home in His loving name.

Rhys

Reg:
Space.ace.jas,

You said, "what if the Bible was just written by a bunch of fiction writers and that there is no God..."

This is the part I'm responding to. Personally, I have gone through this and there was no amount of scripture that helped me as I could not at the time trust them as the true word of God.  The only thing that helped was to use the mind that I was given and search for the truth of the matter.  Was the Bible really from God and do we have the right books? I spent years digging through a lot of junk before I found what I am convinced is the truth.  I believe there is a proverb about how one man will sound right until you hear what the other has to say.  Maybe you won't have to do that, but when you are vulnerable and confused a lot of wrong teachers can really make finding the truth murky.

Ray does talk extensively about how we got the Bible and it it's one of those truths that has helped me a lot on this matter.

In the section
Introductions, announcements,& more of Rays teachings
There is the childboards section underneath,
Click on- transcripts of Rays audios

Then scroll down and open up
How we got the Bible  mobile conference 2007
I would recommend reading the transcripts as if my memory is correct, the audios don't always match up.

I really hope this helps in your search for the truth :)

Sorry Reg

darren:
Rex8 i must say that was a beautifull reply.

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