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lilitalienboi16:

--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on April 12, 2013, 01:08:42 AM ---
--- Quote from: Rito1980 on April 11, 2013, 11:37:50 PM ---not to mention i was  taken advantage of by someone who i thought was a friend, i lost alot of money thru this friend.  and i didnt mention my bad health.

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Every person I have ever known or read about have had multiple problems and difficulties in life.  Many, many of them much worse than your problems.

Depressed people I have known concentrate on themselves.  They think of themselves constantly.  It is always me, me and mine.

Your troubles are not unique to you.

Consider the troubles Jesus had the last three days of His life.  Also the sickness, disease, and health problems He experienced all the days of His life.  He lost everything and had everything taken from Him.  He didn't deserve any of it.  He was totally without sin or guilt of any kind.  Yet, He served others and helped those in need, and remembered others, even at His darkest hours.

Pray to Jesus and ask Him for His Spirit.  This Spirit will empower you to prevail in all things.  You will never be alone with that Power within you, and He will give you rest for your soul.  Meditate on His ways.  Consider the positive things in your life and what you have that others do not.

I assume you have sight.  Some do not.

I assume you have had food and drink today.  Some have not.

I assume you have shelter and a place to sleep for the night in safety.  Some have not.

Think of all the things you presently have right now (including your life), and know some do not have what you have.

Praise God for what He has given you and ask His help for your troubles.  Only He can and will save you.

May He give you the blessings of heaven above and the earth beneath, and give you His peace.

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Amen John. What a great beautiful post. Just to add to that;

The real Jesus, and He's not a blood hair blue eyed surfer!

Isaiah 53:2-4

For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.


--- Quote from: " Shorty " on April 12, 2013, 02:39:49 AM ---Well, it's true.

I also got the impression having skyped with you, Rito, a couple times about three months ago, that you're suspicious of people's intentions towards you, that you spend time watching negative things on conspiracy theories and such.  And we have to be careful, because that stuff can make your head spin all by itself.  We have to learn to let.some.things.go, and not sit around imagining that "we're going to be next."  If we don't pick our battles wisely, we go through life feeling beaten and battered because we let every.little.thing throw us off balance.  It's not worth it.  Fact is, you're going to find weirdos everywhere, and especially, ESPECIALLY, on the internet because the world is completely and totally off its rocker.  That's just how it is.

Jesus is the Great Physician.  When all else fails, believe God.

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Amen! The greatest physician of all! He gives life to the dead, what greater power is there than this?

He is capable and able to heal you of any and all things. Trust in Him for your healing and guidance in this life in all things.

Lastly, I second what Arc has said. If it is not right than it is not the end and I for one, shall be happy, to be there with you all, at the end of things.

God bless,

Alex

Rito1980:
thank you for your prayers everyone. and shorty i dont know if you work for the phsyciatrists. but i want to warn all of you that anti depresants are nothing but a scam and will ruin your health. just like chemotherapy, its posison and can be lethal to some. 

Gina:
Funny you should mention it.  I used to also do part-time work for a psychiatrist, Dr. Curtis Booraem, here in Southern California for about 7 years, until he died about 8-9 years ago.   Believe me, I'm not "expert" but I got quite an education from typing up those reports.  I believe everything you're saying, which is precisely why I wrote those things, above, to you.  No need to go around alarming the living daylights out of people, though.  It's not so much in starting the medications as it is in the way that people stop taking them.  They have to be tapered off of them, and not stopped cold turkey.

How are you feeling, by the way?  The last time we skyped you said that you have no ability to feel anything emotionally.  Has that changed at all?

Rito1980:
ive been off them since 2005. the high dose and the length of time really fried my brain. it left me with a weak immune sytem and metabolism. i had an allergic reaction to things like toothpaste and penecilin. i know the anti depressants can screw brain neurons. i wont get into anymore. whats done is done. if something really bad ends up happening to me this summer i know it was meant to be.

lilitalienboi16:

--- Quote from: Rito1980 on April 12, 2013, 08:57:20 PM ---ive been off them since 2005. the high dose and the length of time really fried my brain. it left me with a weak immune sytem and metabolism. i had an allergic reaction to things like toothpaste and penecilin. i know the anti depressants can screw brain neurons. i wont get into anymore. whats done is done. if something really bad ends up happening to me this summer i know it was meant to be.

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Rito...

I'm not going to say you aren't experiencing what you claim to be but i'm going to explain to you my skepticism here. The best way is to is to explain the basics to you, that is to say, how the nervous system functions without going into too much detail. Well at least how neucleus bodies and their corresponding white matter tracts propagate signals throughout the central nervous system (which includes the brain and spine).

Normally, the presynaptic neuron (which is the neuron sending the signal due to some sort of graded potential at the soma [cell body]) secretes various neurotransmitters. One neurotransmitter per synaptic junction or synaptic cleft. A synaptic cleft is the very tiny microscope area between two neurons. A space if you will between two neurons in which the electrical signal cannot jump.

So how it all begins is that something triggers the presynaptic neuron to fire an electrical signal from its cell body and it propagates this signal through the opening of various voltage gated cationic channels (Sodium in terms of the brain) down the length of its axon. Upon reaching the axon terminal, the electrical signal is converted into a chemical signal because, as I explained above, the electrical signal cannot jump the distance between the two neurons, this "synaptic cleft." This electrical signal instead opens up voltage gated calcium channels which allow calcium to flood the axon terminal from outside the cell, triggering the release of vesicles containing a specific neurotransmitter (these can vary from dopamine, to seratonin, to acetylcholine, epinephrine, neroepinephrine etc...) from the presynaptic neuron into the synaptic cleft. These chemical messengers then bind to chemically gated cationic channels of the postynaptic neuron which allow sodium from the extracellular fluid to then flood this target neuron causing a depolarization event to occur at this postsynaptic cell known as a "graded potential" effectively (without going into more details here but its not as black and white) propigating the signal from one neuron to the next. This continues until the signal reaches its destination where it has some effect on some other cell or tissue etc...

In people with depression, the chemical messenger released into the synaptic cleft by the presynaptic neuron is accidently re-uptaken by the very cell that released it and thus the next cell in line (the next neuron) can't receive the signal and transmit it further down the line to where it should be going. This also makes it hard for neurons to communicate between one another thus causing the depression you.

What anti depressents due is they provent the pre synaptic neuron to re-uptake its OWN chemical messanger and effectively allow the postsynaptic cell to receive the chemical message and then continue propagating the electrical signal down the chain of command.

So with all that in mind, i find it very hard to believe that your antidepressant drugs caused you to become allergic to toothpaste, weakened your immune system etc.. what weakens your immune system is the depression you are feeling now and as shorty said, cutting your antidepressant drugs cold turkey is probably what caused you to feel so much worse than you did making you think it was the drugs. It has been proven, research has shown, physicians say, cutting anti depressent drugs cold turkey is BAD. It has been proven, research has shown and physicians say, stress can weaken your immune system. If you want to know why, it has to do with elevated levels of cortisal and how it interacts with imunne cells but there is no point in going into detail about that, just know there is a known molecular mechanism between stress and weakened immune system.

I say this with all love and kindness, but you're not a medical expert, there is alot of BAD information on the internet and youtube is apart of that misinformation.

I don't know the future but I don't think youll die this summer. I think you need to get out of your own self induced hysteria because its causing you ALOT of problems (mostly because your basing your conclusions off alot of misinformation and inadequate understanding) it seems and get some help. Either start listening to what people are saying here, pray about it if you havn't and go in to see a physician, psychiatrist or even therapist.

I say this with all the love in my heart. I'm sorry if this offends you but tough love.

God be with you,

Alex

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